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It ought to be clear by now

It seems like only yesterday that I posted this in 2021 :“The background and motive of yesterday’s attacks were unclear”.

And here we are again. It has been hours since the mass stabbing on a train travelling from Doncaster to Kings Cross. There were many witnesses. Two men have been arrested. No other suspects are sought. I find it hard to believe that the background and motive of yesterday’s attacks really do remain unclear to the police, the government, or the press. But they certainly have not been made clear to the public.

The Home Secretary has urged the public to “avoid comment and speculation at this early stage”. There are times when this is good advice. This is not one of them. “Nature abhors a vacuum” is never more true when the vacuum is one of information about a crime that makes millions think, “That could be me”. Did you learn nothing from Southport? The only thing that will dissipate the hurricane of speculation is to replace it with facts. It is not as if your strategy of politically correct evasiveness is working. It hasn’t worked for years.

19 comments to It ought to be clear by now

  • bobby b

    Someone I was introduced to here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P0X7RMz0WQ

    Seems appropo.

  • Fraser Orr

    We don’t need to “avoid comment and speculation at this early stage”. The cause of this tragedy is obvious. The widespread availability of knifes is a threat to us all. Did you know there are more knifes in Britain than there are people? It is outrageous that the government hasn’t done anything about it.

    Surely we can all get by with plastic knifes. You disagree? You mean you are standing with the murderous terrorists rather than standing with us, who believe that the safety of our children is paramount over your desire to cut your steak with ease.

    Time for us to seriously rethink our knife policy, and start a national knife buy back campaign. Get these vile and dangerous weapons out of the hands of criminals.

  • Subotai Bahadur

    In the 6 hours from the time of the stabbings, the police have apparently no idea who or why. According to Sky News, though, the Home Secretary has said:

    Police declare a “major incident” and confirm that counter-terrorism officers will be supporting the investigation.

    Combine the counter-terrorism aspect with the lack of news and certain things can be considered as more probable.

    Subotai Bahadur

  • bobby b

    Vikings, no doubt.

    Hide your women.

  • jgh

    I notice there’s a picture of a railwway departure board saying “See it, Say it, Sort it”. But, of course, when we see it and say it, TPTB shout BIGOTTTTTTTTSSSS!!!!!! and refuse to sort it.

  • jgh

    Fraser: I can’t slice my bread with a plastic knife, or slice cheese, or cut up vegetables, or carve meat. If a plastic knife was strong enough and sharp enough to be usable, they’d be stong enough and sharp enough to stab people with.

  • Fred

    Come to Adelaide, Australia, where wooden cutlery is mandated for takeaway food, or Melbourne, Australia, with the world’s most expensive knife disposal bins.

    https://www.heraldsun.com.au/truecrimeaustralia/police-courts-victoria/machete-bins-called-into-question-amid-claims-9-tool-from-bunnings-can-unlock-them/news-story/58323aea5aad3bd10c9f1ea57d06eb1b

  • The UK state has delegitimised itself to such an extent we are at the point it makes no sense to even call the police most of the time when a crime occurs.

  • Patrick Crozier

    There was a flurry of political assassinations in the years running up to the outbreak of the First World War. Frequently, the authorities – e.g. in the case of McKinley – would claim that the assassin was mentally ill when he was clearly politically motivated. This would appear to be much the same impulse.

  • John

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/11/01/driver-suspended-after-trapping-jewish-passenger-on-bus/

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/11/01/prosecutors-refused-to-treat-jews-faced-with-nazi-salutes/

    I hope I’m not getting tedious by highlighting “Jewish stories” on here although heaven knows there are enough of them nowadays.

    My point is to use these two from today’s telegraph to illustrate that from the high (the Crown Prosecution Service) to the low (Arriva buses) British institutions have been infiltrated by those who, while they don’t carry out mass stabbings, don’t like or give a shit about Jews and are no longer afraid to to say it – or to act on their prejudice.

  • bobby b

    Is there no process by which a majority can right now call for a change in government?

  • John

    A vote of confidence isn’t going to work with around a 300 seat majority. Internecine squabbles within the ruling party will happen but to minimal effect on the rest of us.

    Intervention by King Tampon, who largely agrees with much of the shit going on, is even less likely.

  • Mary Black

    Oh Lord, talk about “You don’t look Jewish…” (The bus man.)

  • llamas

    It’s unfortunately another example of the new meme in action – in other news, two people have been taken into custody. They are nameless, they have no appearance, and they will appear before the magistrates for committal in 3 weeks, under reporting restrictions, and they will be conveyed to and from court hooded and in closed vehicles. I watched a bit of coverage last night and was amazed/not amazed that every witness who spoke was able to describe harrowing scenes of appalling violence, but not a one of them (apparently) could recall any detail whatever about the perpetrators. As Ann Coulter and many others have observed, the complete lack of any description of the attackers leads one to an immediate conclusion about who and what they are. Time will tell whether the meme operates in this case, but right now, after 12 hours of total radio silence, I’d say that the over/under is 95 and 5.

    llater,

    llamas

  • NickM

    He was Prince Tampon. He is now King Tenapants…

    Anyway, he’s up His Crown Jewels with family matters right now…

  • NickM

    My guess is “they” are working on the narrative. The question is, “Which is worse for ‘social cohesion’, indiginous Jihadis or Dinghyfolk?”

  • llamas

    @NickM – apparently, the majority vote was for “indigenous”, as the media are now loudly trumpeting that both men are “British Nationals”, as though this makes everything OK. Don’t worry, folks, they’re murderous nutters – but they’re just like us!

    It’s OK, though – their histories will leak out soon enough, the only question now is just how hard TPTB will work to try and control the narrative.

    llater,

    llamas

  • Roué le Jour

    bobby b,
    it would be nice to think the army would step in before the UK goes completely Zimbabwe but I doubt it.

  • John

    One is of Caribbean descent
    One is just black
    Both were born in the UK
    Definitely not terror-related
    (Funny how that can be said with complete certainty so quickly)

    So just a black on white mass stabbing, possibly murder.

    All together now:-
    “Don’t look back in angerrrrr”.

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