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That has such people in’t

How many goodly creatures are there here!
How beauteous mankind is! O brave new world,
That has such people in’t.

– William Shakespeare, The Tempest, Act V, Scene I

Hillel Neuer welcomes the New Year in with a look at the newly elected members of the U.N.’s highest human rights body.

12 comments to That has such people in’t

  • Paul Marks

    I note the whitewash of Eleanor Roosevelt – in reality she was, even more than her husband Franklin (and without his excuse of brain problems) an admirer of Joseph Stalin – the murderer of millions of people. So I suspect that some of the regimes on the list would have her approval.

    By the way – if anyone tries the “they did not know” tap dance, the New Dealers (including Mr and Mrs Roosevelt) knew well what was going on in the Soviet Union in the 1930s, this was in the files of the old Russian Section of the State Department, which the New Dealers tried to get rid of.

    Even my father (working in an East End sweat shop in London) knew about the millions dying in the Soviet Union. So spare me the “they did not know” nonsense.

  • Paul Marks

    Franklin Roosevelt was at least consistent – he did not care about the murder of the millions by the Marxists in the Soviet Union, and he did not (IN PRIVATE) care about the murder of millions of Jews by the National Socialists either. See Paul Johnson’s “A History of the Jews” – specifically Franklin Roosevelt’s mocking of Winston Churchill’s proposals to bomb the Nazi camps and death railways, and his (Franklin Roosevelt’s) citing, as truth, the Nazi figures of Jewish domination of German professions up to 1933. Franklin Roosevelt was very nice to any Jew who could be useful to him – but was full of sneering dislike behind their backs.

    The Nazi statistics were lies – but even if they had been true, “Jewish domination of the professions” would not justify the murder of millions of people.

    Bottom line – the founding couple of the United Nations (Eleanor and Franklin Roosevelt) would not have had much problem with the dictatorships on this list of the U.N. Human Rights Council – as long as the dictatorships were “Progressive”.

    The United Nations (Agenda 21, Agenda 2030 and all) has not “betrayed the dream” of the Roosevelts – it is what they both wanted it to be.

  • Rudolph Hucker

    Has this been mentioned previously?

    The New World Order – Doing God’s Work by Killing the Bad Seed


    In particular, Barbara Marx Hubbard

    Out of the full spectrum of human personality, one-fourth is electing to transcend …. One-fourth is destructive [and] they are defective seeds. In the past they were permitted to die a ‘natural death.’ … Now as we approach the quantum shift from the creature-human to the co-creative human — the human who is an inheritor of god-like powers — the destructive one-fourth must be eliminated from the social body …. Fortunately, you are not responsible for this act. We are. We are in charge of God’s selection process for planet Earth. He selects, we destroy. We are the riders of the pale horse, Death.

    Also Alice Bailey and the Lucis/Lucifer Trust

    the Plan for humanity requires the cooperation and service of trained and dedicated human beings intelligently informed about world affairs, in collaboration with those who form the spiritual Hierarchy, the inner government of the planet.


    “trained and dedicated human beings intelligently informed about world affairs” may be deployed via Behavioural Science (Nudge Units) and SAGE beings.

    An honourable mention should be extended to Sir David Attenborough (the BBC’s Eugenics missionary)


  • Natalie Solent (Essex)

    Rudolph Hucker, I have to say that although Barbara Marx Hubbard sounds like a complete nutter, the author you quote, Barbara H. Peterson, though more genial, does not sound entirely rational either.

  • Rudolph Hucker

    @Natelie Solent

    I concur. On reflection, it’s clearly a subject so vast that it may overwhelm many people who try to comprehend it, and they do struggle to maintain a cognative response.

    We might recall that many of us grew-up in the 1960’s, in an era of “peace and love”. But that wasn’t always received peacefully and lovingly, was it? For some, spiritual growth means recognising free will and the choice between good and bad. Some might say, a libertarian personal growth.

    The flip side of that spiritual coin is : some other people are eager to assume the role of “spiritual leaders” and “chosen ones”, asserting authority over the common herd (the “less aware”) that needs “guidance”. “Good” becomes “for the good of the cause”. The rest follows.

  • Fraser Orr

    TBH, I think the tweet is a bit deceptive. It kind of gives the impression that these are all the members, when there are in fact 47 members, so this list is about 25%. Which is pretty bad for sure, but given the state of the world, and the fact that all states aren’t eligible every year due to the requirement for rotating membership, it is kind of remarkable they found 35 member states that weren’t gross abusers of human rights.

    And of course it is really just a symbolic thing — something to laugh about — since they aren’t actually going to DO anything. They are just a bunch of scolds, and we can laugh at their ridiculous, hypocritical scolding as they do it. So in a sense this is a good thing, since it makes it apparent just how ridiculous the UN itself is. If the UN Council on Human Rights actually had something to do with assisting human rights we would be rightly concerned. But it doesn’t. So in a sense its ridiculousness combined with its fecklessness is actually a benefit.

  • bobby b

    Fraser Orr, they may not actually DO anything of note, but they provide an awful lot of moral cover for other people to do those bad things.

    They’re like the pastor exhorting his people to get out there and smite the unwoke. They’re like the little switch tripping the big relay.

  • Rudolph Hucker

    Seeing Uzbekistan on Hillel Neuer’s list has just reminded me of Craig Murray’s account of his time there as the United Kingdom’s Ambassador to Uzbekistan

    “Murder in Samarkand”

    One can still find copies of his book on Amazon.

    Or listen to a radio-play version?

  • Paul Marks

    I believe that Switzerland did not use to be a member of the United Nations – but then Switzerland used to be conservative country (note I said USED TO BE).

    One of the slogans associated with real conservatives and libertarians in the United States used to be “Get the U.S. out of the U.N.” and that was, and is, a good principle.

    The People’s Republic of China became a member of the U.N, in the early 1970s (one of that follies of that Disraeli like FAKE conservative Richard Nixon – and the even more despicable Edward Heath).

    That might have been a good thing IF all decent countries had taken the arrival of Mao’s regime (the largest scale mass murderers in modern history) as a sign to LEAVE the U.N.

    Let the U.N. move to the People’s Republic of China where they can all chat about Agenda 21, Agenda 2030, the Environment and Social Governance (ESG) Social Credit score system, and all their other evils.

    The “rules based international order” has turned out to mean a gradual (and now not so gradual) move to collectivist totalitarianism.

    Those who opposed the creation of the United Nations, the IMF, the World Bank (and all the rest of international “governance”) have turned out to be far sighted.

  • NickM

    bobby b,
    A very good point about moral cover. It was not long ago (I mean really not long ago) that the Uzbeks were actually boiling people alive. Clearly a minor infraction compared to the fact that people with penises and beards* aren’t allowed into female changing rooms…

    A great many top-notch Jewish scientists got out of Nazi Germany. Also a lot of non-Jewish scientists who hated (and were hated by) the regime. The Nazis had an idea of “Jewish Science” versus “German Science”. How and why did this work? Well, obviously the Nazis hated Jews. A lot of the top folk in the sciences were Jewish so if you were “Aryan”** and in with The Party but a bit of a mediocrity then… Well that professorship you’ve craved has just opened up for you. Never underestimate the amorality of academics in pursuit of advancement.

    Depressing? Yes, up to a point. It meant the Allies got the cream and that made a massive difference to our R&D. I think of this as a (very hard won) form of poetic justice.

    *Yes, I appreciate gender-reassignment surgery is a big deal and clinically risky but shaving? That’s just so taking the piss. I mean I do that all the time and I’m not even trying to make a statement.
    **Whatever, exactly that meant…

  • Nicholas (Unlicensed Joker) Gray

    Are we allowed to quote from dead white men, like Shakespeare? Isn’t there some living non-white self-identified-as-woman we can look for?

  • Rudolph Hucker


    It was not long ago (I mean really not long ago) that the Uzbeks were actually boiling people alive.

    As recently as 2002, according to Craig Murray’s evidence to the UK Foreign Office? The FO chose to turn a blind eye to what its new “strategic partner” was doing.