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Samizdata quote of the day

The vitriol hurled at the ‘unvaxed’ has been nothing short of evil over this pandemic; it makes you want to refuse it purely out of solidarity. Frankly, I would be loath to do anything requested of me by the type of low life that would refuse treatment to the unvaccinated or show such glee at their suffering.

I will repeat what I have said many times but only seems to get more prescient – this is the most inhumane and irrational response to disease since before the enlightenment.

Whoever kids themselves that this nonsense is enlightened simply because it comes with modern mRNA vaccines, track and trace technology and zoom calls should think again about what ‘enlightened’ really looks like.

This is tech enabled medievalism

David Slade

41 comments to Samizdata quote of the day

  • jmc

    Its pure anti-science mass hysteria.

    If a infectious disease has a low infection rate, low health risk you need less than a 50% vaccination rate for epidemic prevention. Like with Influenza and SARs CoV 2. If a infectious disease has a high infection rate, high health risk you need a high vaccination rate of around 90% for epidemic prevention. Like with measles. Thats they science and has been for 140 plus years.

    So if the SARs CoV 2 vaccines work they only need a < 50% vaccination for diseases control and if the vaccines do not work why are they distributing by far the most dangerous vaccine in public health history. At least two orders of magnitude more dangerous than any other public health vaccine. Negating the traditional risk / benefit equation for public health vaccines.

    The public health bureaucracy is full of charlatans and liars. Pure and simple. Dancing to the tune of their political paymasters. No better than the Soviet science establishment apparatchiks at the height of Stalinism.

    The vaccines dont work. Never did. Never could. Thats the science. Time to start planing to put the senior public health officials on trial. They should be first to made answer for what they have done. In a court of law. We can deal with the rest later.

  • The public health bureaucracy is full of charlatans and liars. Pure and simple. Dancing to the tune of their political paymasters. No better than the Soviet science establishment apparatchiks at the height of Stalinism.

    All bureaucracies are full of charlatans and liars. At the moment, public health is second in its fullness only to education.

  • Exasperated

    The vitriol hurled at the ‘unvaxed’ has been nothing short of evil over this pandemic; it makes you want to refuse it purely out of solidarity.

    Amen. A year ago, I had every intention of being vaccinated. Initially, I waited to be sure vaccination wasn’t followed by mass deaths. Since then, because of the histrionics, the deceit, the contradictions, the malicious demands, the smear campaigns against anyone even asking mundane questions, never mind the excessive effort to silence and harass any kind of dissent, the monolithic nature of their policy to the exclusion of therapeutics, I have become increasingly suspicious and resistant. The public health bureaucracy torpedoed their own credibility.

  • Stonyground

    “The public health bureaucracy torpedoed their own credibility.”

    And yet dissenters are a tiny minority. I did my big shop at Asda today and mask compliance is about 95%. Interestingly most people aren’t masking their children.

  • Exasperated

    And yet dissenters are a tiny minority. I did my big shop at Asda today and mask compliance is about 95%.

    Wow, that’s amazing!
    For the last 6 months, in the areas, I frequent: New Hampshire, North Carolina, Missouri, and Kansas it is not unusual to see no masking or very light masking 10-20%. Outside of a few states, some major cities, and doctor’s offices, there is very little compliance with masking.

  • My initial decision not to have the vaccine was driven by inertia rather than any particular fear of the consequences. I declined for much the same reason I decline the flu vaccine. I’m not in a high risk group and I don’t see the need to take a vaccine for an illness that it highly unlikely to kill me. I also had vague concerns about the lack of long term data.

    The subsequent frenzy of vitriol and pressure has merely served to cement my decision not to have the damned thing. Anyone who claims that I am costing the NHS and taking up beds – despite not being sick – merely confirms to me that they are an arsehole to be shunned.

  • Stonyground

    This is in the UK. Mask wearing was at a fairly low level until about three weeks ago when the government, backed by the lying charlatans that they call scientific advisors, declared that we should start wearing them again. The bovine population has rushed to comply. I see the mask wearing as a kind of opinion poll on how terribly dangerous the virus continues to be and how many ludicrous restrictions we are prepared to put up with. We are on the brink of the endarkenment, blindly walking into dystopia. The thing is, I’ve stopped caring, I’ll do whatever I have to to get by, the lot of them can suck it up, they deserve everything that they get.

  • Johnathan Pearce (London)

    The way that therapeutic treatments and their efficacy was until perhaps recently drowned out by the focus on vaccines ought to make one suspicious.

    I have been vaccinated because to do my job I have to fly abroad. So in a sense there is a kind of blackmail involved: no vaccine, no job. I have weighed up the pros and cons (I am reasonably fit and work out) and took the view that not being vaccinated, certainly in the early stages, was more dangerous than being unvaccinated. I also am pretty certain I had C-19 as far back as December 2019 while in Malta. But to be frank the longer this shitshow goes on, the more reluctant I am to co-operate further. How many more jabs do they need? A fourth, fifth, sixth? Is there not a law of diminishing medical returns with these? No doubt some in the pharma and related sectors are making a lot of money out of this.

    To repeat, I think the role of therapeutics has been drowned out in the all the other noise, and yet it surely has to be the case that, as this bug evolves and gets less dangerous, that this is an important avenue of development.

    Two years of this is surely enough. The damage done has been enormous, and yet I know that a lot of people are getting habituated to being messed about.

    We exist in an abusive relationship with the State. Far too few people yet are fully aware of how bad this is. It is not just about whether Boris Johnson or some other bozo is PM; it is about the faith we put in the administrative state.

  • Patrick Crozier

    Indeed, Johnathan, indeed.

  • Stonyground

    Is part of the problem that the government has no effective opposition? Regarding the response to Covid and government policy more generally, batshit crazy would be a fair assessment. What we get from the supposed opposition is that they are nowhere near mental enough. If we had an opposition that was taking the government to task for their lies, their incompetence, the immense damage that they are doing to the country and offering a sane alternative we might not be in quite such a mess.

  • Jon Eds

    I was very apprehensive when it was announced that they had developed a vaccine. Not because I anticipated what would follow, but because I had hoped that the world would develop a backbone instead.

    It became clear around March time that it wasn’t ’15m jabs to freedom’ after all, but it had to be everybody including your goldfish. I found that time pretty difficult and spent a few nights without getting any sleep.

    At no point have I entertained the idea of getting vaccinated.

    I should add that all the piling on just makes me even more determined not to get vaccinated. I’d rather rot in hell before doing anything that would please Michael Gove.

  • Quentin

    There’s just one question you need to ask yourself: how many deaths are you prepared to accept? That’s it. Everything follows from that.

    And that mask is not there to protect you from others but to protect others from you; observance hereabouts seems to be near 100%.

  • bobby b

    “There’s just one question you need to ask yourself: how many deaths are you prepared to accept? That’s it. Everything follows from that.”

    Do you mean, from Covid? Or do you mean, from the Covid vaccines? Because those numbers seem to be converging, at least in the US.

  • The Jannie

    Quentin: Those of us who try to be informed other than by msmaniacs would accept a death rate in keeping with past winters. Unfortunately the liars, charlatans, mask enthusiasts and other very interested parties have joined forces to make this kind of information difficult to come by. Their deliberate conflation of “with wuflu” and “of wuflu” was just one part of their control campaign.

  • And that mask is not there to protect you from others but to protect others from you

    Yet they do nothing of the sort.

    observance hereabouts seems to be near 100%.

    Not where I live.

  • Shlomo Maistre

    And that mask is not there to protect you from others but to protect others from you

    LMAO

    These NPCs wouldn’t know the difference between an N95 mask and a regular cloth mask if Jesus himself came down to explain it to them.

  • Stonyground

    “And that mask is not there to protect you from others but to protect others from you”

    The masks do nothing apart from demonstrating your submission. They do not protect you or anyone else from anything.

  • Nicholas (Unlicensed Joker) Gray

    Here in Australia we have low death rates and high mask usage (though that is now tapering off). And we also have long distances between large cities. So the masks do have some value.

  • There’s just one question you need to ask yourself: how many deaths are you prepared to accept?

    I’m prepared to accept the deaths of Anthony Fauci and the rest of the government-health establishment.

  • Sam Duncan

    Exasperated, Longrider: That could be me writing. 18 months ago, I was looking forward to a vaccine. Couldn’t come fast enough. But now I’m more certain that steering clear of the things was absolutely the right decision with every day that passes.

  • Albion's Blue Front Door

    The message from the manufacturer on the box of ear-loop mask states it will not safeguard the user from Covid. I understand that by putting this disclaimer on the product they are protecting themselves from any possible law suit, but even so… One does wonder if they are being honest and admitting whatever use these masks have, it isn’t for this particular pandemic.

    My view is that if people wish to cover their faces to whatever degree they wish then they should be free to do so, but equally those who don’t want to wear a mask shouldn’t have to do so. One thing it is doing though is separating the righteous from the free, and I dislike that enormously. It has been said that the most amazing things about giving the public paper masks is the casual way they treat them, throwing them down anywhere like cigarette ends. In medical practices, masks are disposed of properly, but throughout this epidemic the UK government has to my knowledge not provided a single public safe disposal point for something allegedly crawling with the deadliest virus ever.

    Incidentally, I was initially double-jabbed (I am in my seventies, FWIW) but have so far refused to have any booster. I simply can no longer trust HM government on anything that say; after all, the double-jab was declared enough at the time. I do however reserve the right to amend my stance and give in when official thugs armed with batons come for me.

  • Paul Marks

    We do not know yet if the Covid “vaccines” (for want of a better word) will save more people than they kill – we may not know that for years.

    But we do know that for healthy children to take these medications is an outrage – healthy children should not be subjected to risky experimental medications that offer no real gain to these healthy children.

    Those who push these medications on healthy children are the enemy. There is no point in sugar coating that.

    As for Covid 19 itself.

    We know it came from a lab in the Wuhan area – we do NOT know if it was an accidental leak or deliberately released. We also know that gain of function research was being pushed in that institute by Tony Fauci (a man who has done so much harm – for example viciously smearing epidemiologists from Oxford, Harvard, Yale and Stanford for the “crime” of opposing his lockdown policy) and Peter Dazsak of the “Eco Health Alliance” and the “World Health Organisation” (the “World Health Organisation” being a United Nations group headed by a Marxist doctor of philosophy, NOT doctor of medicine, which serves the interests of the People’s Republic of China dictatorship).

    We also know that if caught EARLY Covid 19 can be successfully treated by a combination of long established (non experimental) medications – this has been shown in sworn testimony before the United States States way back in 2020. But the truth was swept away by a “Flood” of vicious lies from the establishment, including the establishment media.

    The one good thing about the last two years is that the enemy has clearly identified themselves. Things are out in the open now.

  • Non Emus

    These NPCs wouldn’t know the difference between an N95 mask and a regular cloth mask if Jesus himself came down to explain it to them.

    And a lot of the N95 masks have vents to allow air to be more easily expelled without the trouble of being slowed down by a filter. I always find them amusing, I have thusfar restrained myself from going to one of them and explaining how selfish that vent actually is, if you buy the official reason for mask wearing. I mean, aren’t they literally, like, killing people?

  • Paul Marks

    There are some sorts of mask that really can stop a virus – but the viruses the left establishment (including Mr “Net Zero” Johnson) push, can NOT stop a virus.

    The masks they push are a form of ritual humiliation – about “compliance” (submission to power) NOT health.

  • Paul Marks

    As yet we do NOT know if the international Collectivist establishment created the Covid 19 crises on purpose (it may well have been a genuine accident in the Wuhan Institute) – but they have taken advantage of it to push a pre existing agenda

    The same is true of the “Climate Change Emergency” – they may (or may not) sincerely believe in the theory that human C02 emissions are creating very dangerous Global Warming, but they have certainly taken advantage of the theory to push a pre existing agenda. For example, Dr Schwab’s book “Stakeholder Capitalism” (one of the guides leading to Agenda 21 and Agenda 2030 – i.e. Corporate State “the Cradle to the Grave” Fascism) was published in 1971 – many years BEFORE the Global Warming theory.

  • Phil B

    Covid (any one of the variants) lowers your resistance to lead poisoning too.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI2joNg5HTw

    He would have lived, LIVED, I tell you if he hadn’t caught Covid.

    Cue the discussion about dying OF Covid vs dying WITH Covid … The comment about the WHO categorising any death not attributable to anything definite as a Covid death is revealing. But there again, as this case proves, the coroners are incompetent.

  • Paul Marks

    Phil B – yes the lying is constant.

    And it, the constant lying propaganda, is driving people to mental illness. But then the establishment (government and corporate) love that as well – they can hand “anti depressants” to the people they have DRIVEN to mental illness, and laugh about the harm these medications do over time.

  • Paul Marks

    As well as the standard “hate groups” – group of people to hate (“racists”, “sexists”, “homophobes”, “transphobes”, “Islamophobes” and so on) “Climate Deniers” are being pushed as a new hate group, another group of people that the public is being taught to have an irrational hatred for.

    And it is not just children who are being taught to HATE (taught by the education system and the “mainstream” media – and the government bureaucracy) it is much older people as well.

    I have overheard elderly ladies spouting hatred for the “unvaccinated” (or “anti vaxers” – which can cover people who have been vaccinated, but just express doubts – the response to doubts is HATRED, TRAINED hatred). It is becoming the same with the “Climate Change Emergency” – it is physically unsafe to express doubts about this, a person who does express doubts is at risk of verbal and (indeed) physical attack.

    Free Will (agency) does exist – humans are beings. However, conditioning (in this case generating irrational HATRED for certain groups of people) often works – otherwise the evil would not engage in this “Nudging” of human minds.

    People can free themselves of this conditioning – but only with great effort.

  • Shan Zhen Shi

    Well, I seriously considered getting the mRNA “vaccines” for several months but I came down on the “No” side because I just didn’t trust the technology. mRNA had been worked-on for decades by major pharma companies as well as smaller ones and it kept failing in the animal testing stage. “What are the odds, that this time, it works?” – that’s what I asked myself. My guess was, the odds were quite low that just when we needed it, mRNA drugs finally worked. Also, I had become very concerned about the lack of interest in therapies by the USA, the UK, and Israel. It all looked very “staged” to me. Now, I will not consider any mRNA drug until I see at least eight years of independently conducted double-blind trial data.

  • APL

    Dr. Shankara Chetty: ” The spike protein is likely to be the most well engineered human posion ever made, and that’s what it looks like ………. this is a global mass poisioning, until I have any other evidence that paints a different picture, that’s what I think we are dealing with, … The [COVID] vaccine has absolutely no scientific basis .. “

    Discussion Here”

  • Paul Marks

    Shan Zhan Shi and APL.

    In time the truth will come out – whatever the truth turns out to be.

    We have to believe that – otherwise there is no way to keep going.

  • APL

    Paul Marks: “In time the truth will come out ..”

    The truth is out, Paul.

    The question is:

    1. Are you so invested emotionally in believing that, ‘the government wouldn’t do this to me’, to the extent that you refuse to recognise the truth.
    2. Are you so involved in the fraud that, if the truth does gain widespread currency, you might find yourself either bankrupt, shunned or in prison. ( in order of decending likelyhood ).

    I remember back in April when the vaccine was first distributed, some people who I had a degree of respect for, discussing getting this completely untried ‘therapy’, in such terms as ‘Have you got your jab, it’ll give you ‘superpowers'”. You can’t believe how much that shook my belief in normal regular humans.

  • APL

    Paul Marks: “We do not know yet if the Covid “vaccines” (for want of a better word) will save more people than they kill”

    Stop deluding yourself, Paul. The anti covid-19 vaccines are utterly ineffective for their claimed purpose.

    At the begining (2020) the anti COVID-19 therapies were, “Our only way back to normality”.

    Then it was, the Anti Covid vaccines won’t stop you from catching COVID-19 ….. or passing it on to someone else. But they will stop you from getting COVID-19 badly, you won’t die if you go into hospital with COVID-19 if you’ve been vaccinated against COVID-19. FALSE.

    Only 2% of the population were at serious risk of dying from COVID-19 ever! And your medical care had to be so bad as to be bordering on malpractice for that to happen.

    Note: The NHS protocol is, if you think you’ve got COVID: Stay at home, don’t contact your GP or A&E, until you have difficulty breathing. That is, don’t come to the hospital until the disease is in its second terminal phase, where we can maybe do something for you, perhaps, but it’ll probably be too late.

    By the way, how do you measure an intangible relative measure like, you won’t get it so bad? Until you got COVID-19 you have no yardstick to measure how bad it is. Other than media hysteria. Perhaps you know one person, a relative of a friend second cousin, she had it really bad.

    There is one woman I know who has had three different vaccines. She got one set in Dubai – not one of the Western approved vaccines, so that wasn’t good enough for the UK Border control, so she got one of the approved vaccines, guess what? She went down with what she described as COVID not once since being vaccinated but twice!

    She won’t come to Christmas lunch with us because I am not vaccinated. That is a medically qualified but, I’m afraid stupid woman, who has taken the vaccine but is afraid to meet with unvacinated people.

    Second example, GP and her Lawyer husband, supposedly, highly educated. Masked & double vaxxed. He’s just tested positive for COVID-19.

    This is mass hysteria, bordering on insanity a sort of Munchausens.

    The only thing the anti COVID-19 vaccines are good for is giving you anaphalactic shock ( if you’re lucky ) or, a wide range of untreatable auto-immune conditions as the spike protein is produced in random organs of your body that promote weird and wonderful symptoms as you immune system attacks the organ producing the alien protein.

  • Shlomo Maistre

    The only thing the anti COVID-19 vaccines are good for is giving you anaphalactic shock ( if you’re lucky ) or, a wide range of untreatable auto-immune conditions as the spike protein is produced in random organs of your body that promote weird and wonderful symptoms as you immune system attacks the organ producing the alien protein.

    You forgot about myocarditis and pericarditis and bell’s palsy.

    On a per person basis, all of these are orders of magnitude more common from COVID vaccine than from any other vaccine ever.

    https://openvaers.com/

  • Shlomo Maistre

    This is mass hysteria

    It really is mass hysteria, except that at least with hysteria there is usually a credible threat to the health of the majority of the population.

    If you are under the age of 60 with no major health issues then the flu is more lethal than COVID-19 for you.

    And what the fuck do we know about the long term consequences of regular annual mandatory boosters for life?

    And yes, that’s what they want. It’s what Fauci, Gates, and all the rest of them have wanted for years: mandatory vaccine boosters for life for every human on earth. Not just COVID vaccines, but other types also. All of ’em, including many vaccines we don’t even know about yet because they are still in the R&D phase. Annually. Mandatory. Every year.

    Mark my words.

    This is what they want.

  • Shlomo Maistre

    The Nazis of today aren’t sure of their own gender identity but they are sure that you should be required to get injections into your body annually for the rest of your life.

    These sick fucks should eat dirt.

  • Ferox

    A joke I heard recently: What do anti-vaxxers and pro-vaxxers have in common?

    Answer: neither of them will ever be fully vaccinated.

  • APL

    Shlomo Maistre: “You forgot about myocarditis and pericarditis and bell’s palsy.”

    In my opinion, both conditions can be explained by immune system attacking spike protein that is expressed in the heart muscle ( Myocarditis ) or the membrane around the heart ( Pericarditis ).

    I’m not precious about it.

    If I’m wrong and there is another mechanism at work. So be it.

    But, the correlation of vaccine shot, followed by a dose of Myocarditis or Pericarditis, is too high to be mere coincidence.

  • Paul Marks

    APL – on the front of some of the British newspapers today was talk about a FORTH injection (and that has already happened to many people in Israel).

    In the light of this madness it would be silly to argue with you.

  • Patrick Brady

    The reference to a medieval covid response is apt.

    During the Black Death, Europe was dominated by the Roman Catholic Church. They monopolized and controlled public thought, speech and awareness. They had a state monopoly on violence. They claimed to be the sole source of truth. Anyone who challenged their “truth” was a heretic subject to impoverishment, torture and death.

    The “Sciency” public health authorities operate the same way.

    Europe is bad, but I’d really hate to be in Oz now. Don’t know why the population of Oz has failed to go into kinetic rebellion.

  • APL

    Longrider: “Anyone who claims that I am costing the NHS and taking up beds – despite not being sick – merely confirms to me that they are an arsehole to be shunned.”

    The latest scuttlebut I’ve heard. As the UK government now defines a ‘fully vaccinated’ individual, as someone who has recieved injection 1, 2 and the booster injection.

    If you haven’t had all three, you are ‘not vaccinated’. So, No COVID-19 passport for you.

    But also, when the government or media reports that the hospital wards are over stretched because of the unvaccinated, that now convieniently includes people who may have had one or two but not the booster.

    And, annecdotal report from one hospital in England, are that of those in hospital for COVID-19 related treatment, 50% are vaccinated with booster, the rest have injection one, two but no booster. Therefore reported as ‘unvaccinated’.

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