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Ian Birrell in the Mail on Sunday asks,

What are they hiding? At the start of Covid many scientists believed it likely leaked from Wuhan lab – until a conference call with Patrick Vallance changed their minds. We asked for his emails about the call. This is what we got . . .

Redacted letters

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  • bobby b

    Brings to mind Yossarian in Catch-22 censoring letters by covering everything except the words “and”, “if”, and “but.”

  • Paul Marks

    Of course the virus came from the Wuhan lab – if Patrick Vallance denied that he is a liar.

    The question is – was it created and released on purpose, or what it an accident (“gain of function” research that went wrong – escaped by mistake) and the answer to that is “we do not know”.

    Perhaps even more importantly – Early Treatment for Covid 19, which could have saved most of the people who died, has been systematically smeared in many countries – including the United Kingdom.

    A person has a better chance of effective Early Treatment for Covid 19 in such countries as Turkey, or Honduras, or the Dominican Republic (and in several African countries) than they do in the United States or the United Kingdom.

    Lying about the origins of the virus is one thing – lying about Early Treatment of the sickness is something else (and much worse).

    And the international establishment, people such as Peter Daszik and Tony Fauci, have lied about both.

    All that seems to matter to them is using the sickness to push their political agenda – their attitude to the dead being (essentially) “one can not make an omelette without breaking eggs”.

    I have no desire to live in a world ruled by such “Agenda 2030” types – and they have no desire that people with pro liberty opinions should be alive.

    So, oddly enough, we are in agreement.

  • George Atkisson

    Paul Marks –

    Here are the results of India’s use of door-to-door Ivermectin in a province of over 200 million. The WHO and CDC were involved and are fully aware of the results. Both organizations have remained totally silent on this data.


  • Sam Duncan

    They’re taking the piss now. They’re laughing at us. I mean, if that isn’t a deliberate “No, we’re not going to bloody tell you, and there isn’t a damn thing you plebs can do about it,” then what is it?

  • APL

    Paul Marks: “And the international establishment, people such as Peter Daszik and Tony Fauci, have lied about both.”

    They don’t care. They are obvious psychopaths. The issue is, how did we foster a system that allows such people to establish themselves and, how can it be dismantled?

    ‘Collateral damage’

    that is what creatures like Daszik and Fauci would call the millions world wide, killed by their deliberate COVID-19 (treatment witholding ) policy.

    And then we have Sajid Javid who was a member of a government that deliberately, killed thousands by placing infected patients into care homes last year, weeping crocodile tears about the vulnurable.

    These people make me sick.

  • Paul Marks

    APL the great question is – “who knows – and who does not know?”

    I have no idea what Sajid Javid knows (government ministers tend to go along with “advice” from officials and “experts”). But Peter Daszik and Tony Fauci clearly do know they know very well – they, as you point, just do not care.

    In Britain there are also health professionals (after all Peter Daszick is British) – some of them must know. Patrick Vallance may well be one of the British officials who does know – i.e. who is guilty.

    George Atkisson.

    Yes – both the World Health Organisation (whose ravings are made Holy Writ by the Social Media companies – with the truth censored as “misinformation”) and the CDC are clearly guilty. This is not an innocent intellectual error – as Sam Duncan points out, it has been going on too long to be an innocent intellectual error.

  • Mark

    @Paul Mark’s

    It’s quite possible that it was created deliberately AND the release was fucked up.

    I’d just go with straightforward sloppiness and incompetence myself, with a side dish of face saving!

  • Rudolph Hucker

    Some redacted info did leak out in Canada.

    Note (in passing) what happened to Gen. Vance after that. Was it the same “sex pest” ploy that harvested other notable deplorables like Salmond, Assange, etc?

    I too prefer sloppiness and incompetence (muppetry not malevolance), but I’m not so sure with what’s emerging about Midazolam usage.

    Maximum recommended dose: 2.5mg, and only 0.5~1mg for elderly or unwell. Covid patients with DNR notices? 2.5mg increasing to 10mg

    Midazolam injection may cause serious or life-threatening breathing problems such as shallow, slowed, or temporarily stopped breathing that may lead to permanent brain injury or death.


    Theme tune?

  • The good news is: it’s in the Daily Mail on the Sunday of Tory Conference Week. There is a chance that a number of people there will be asked by a number of other people there. Some people there may feel that the great British public should know the answer. Other people there may realise they don’t know the answer who feel strongly that they should, whether or not the great British public should as well.

  • SteveD

    ‘and, how can it be dismantled?’


  • John Lewis

    The BBC’s out of the blue fixation on the “Pandora papers” (as far as they relate to the Conservatives) is undoubtedly timed to coincide with the party conference.

    Even less chance than usual of them reporting on or even mentioning the infinitely more important cover-up.

  • Nicholas (Unlicensed Joker) Gray

    If you go to the Specialist section on the left, and look up Jo Nova, you will see some chilling news that hasn’t made world headlines yet, though it should- Antarctica is recording cooler temperatures than before! I am sure we are doomed, and somehow it must be the fault of climate change, or Brexit!

  • Rudolph Hucker

    @John Lewis
    The BBC’s out of the blue fixation on the “Pandora papers”

    It was good to see the Bliars getting a mention though?


    Oh wait, that’s not the BBC.

  • Paul Marks

    Mark yes indeed – a mixture of wickedness and incompetence.

    John Lewis – partly. But the main target seems to be anywhere that does not have high taxes – for example the media have spent more time attacking South Dakota than attacking the Conservative Party.

    This is part of the standard “Agenda 2030”, “Sustainable Development” agenda – nothing really to do with the environment (as it was all thought up long before James Hanson and his C02 theory came along) – and everything to do with a tax and government spending cartel.

    Remember – some other low tax American States, such as Alaska and Wyoming, have low taxes because they get natural resources money (oil and so on). South Dakota is low tax because it has low government spending.

    The enemy are smearing exactly the target that I, if I were them, would choose to smear.

  • Bruce

    You know you are over the target when the FLAK gets really heavy.

    Wait til you see the counterstrokes by the FLAK operators.

  • APL

    SteveD: “Capitalism.”

    In my opinion, there needs to be some moral mediating structure within which the capitalistic animal instincts to accumulate as much wealth as you can, can be constrained.

    Otherwise, here we are, with for example, Bill Gates and his obsession with population control through the needle. Just because he’s managed to accumulate the wealth of Croesus, shouldn’t give him any particular permissions over the rest of us.

  • Shlomo Maistre

    You emerge from a house and see a great long poem in the grass. Each letter is a cut out from a magazine.

    There is a man on the roof. For the hell of it lets call this man on the roof “Fauci”. “Fauci” says “I threw four hundred letters into the sky from the roof and the letters magically fell into this perfect arrangement 20 feet below on the grass to spell this beautiful poem!”

    There is a homeless toothless man across the street. Lets call him “Alex Jones”. “Alex Jones” says “he walked down on the grass and placed the letters on the grass to spell the poem”.

    There are fancy neighbors in suits and ties that line the street. Lets call these high status neighbors “BBC” and “NYT” and “Washington Post” and “CNN” and “WHO” and “FDA” and “CDC” and “Google” and “Facebook” and “CIA”. These high status, and fancy neighbors all say in unison: “THE TOOTHLESS HOMELESS MAN IS PEDDLING MISINFORMATION!! Trust the professional letter thrower on the roof!”

    Who you gonna believe?

  • Paul Marks

    APL – an end to the endless handing out of money-created-from-NOTHING to wealthy special interests (via the banking and Central Banking system) would be a good start.

    This situation is nothing to do with the free market – this mess is not the result of the free market. This is the Cantillon Effect – but on a scale that Richard Cantillon could not have dreamed of in his worst nightmares.