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Samizdata quote of the day

By the time some of the environmentalists realised who they had sold their soul to, it was too late. But what, in any case, had the alternative been? The small-is-beautiful crowd, with their patchouli-scented jumpers and their 1970s talk about limits and sovereignty, had been cancelled as eco-fascists long ago, exiled to distant smallholdings and housing co-ops with their well-thumbed copies of Tools for Conviviality and other yellowing tomes by dead white men. Now that an actual eco-fascism was on the horizon — a global merger of state and corporate power in pursuit of progress that would have made Mussolini weep like a proud grandfather — there was nothing to stand in its way.

Paul Kingsnorth

12 comments to Samizdata quote of the day

  • George Atkisson

    Perhaps, if they had operated on the basis of facts, logic, and deliberate acceptance of the consequences of their demands, they would have made more of a difference. Fuzzy-headed emotionalism, wild and easily disproven predictions, and ever shifting goalposts make failure inevitable. Their catch phrases were instead used by the globalists as cover for grabbing power and destroying the middle class.

  • jmc

    He lost me here…

    >>
    But it wasn’t working: everything had been going in the wrong direction since the Limits to Growth report had correctly predicted, back in 1972, what was on the way. By the 2020s it was uncomfortably obvious that the report’s predictions — mocked or ignored at the time by the great and the good — had turned out to be startlingly accurate.
    <<

    Total BS. The guy has not a clue. I remember when that Club of Rome fantasy literature came out in the 1970's. By the 1980's it was obvious that every single "prediction" was wrong. Not just a little wrong but Official Soviet Union Statistics wrong. I think the last barrel of oil was supposed to be pumped in 2005, etc, etc..

    The Green Movement was always a bunch of affluent urban middle class (white) people (or their children) getting their Millenarian jollies. And the eco political groups were always ether Watermelon or Avocado. Green on the outside, Red (Marxist) or Brown (fascist) on the inside. And all based on "science" that is about as scientific as Dialectical Materialism. You should see what some of the "intellectuals" in the German Green Party believe. Just change a few words / key terms here and there and its straight of the left wing of the NSDAP circa 1934.

    Inside every Green is a totalitarian bully trying to get out.

  • Clovis Sangrail

    @jmc Inside eEvery Green is a totalitarian bully trying to get out.

    Fixed that for you.

  • James Hargrave

    Walther Darre, your time has come?

  • Mark Matis

    Hopefully you surely do realize who owns St. Greta…

  • Johnathan Pearce

    Watermelons: Green on the outside, red on the inside.

    I recommend this brilliant book by Robert Zubrin.

  • sonny wayz

    @jmc

    “He lost me here…”

    I can’t decide how much of that article was supposed to be read sarcastically. He seems to weave in and out of sarcasm and satire.

  • Zerren Yeoville

    Novelists Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle clearly didn’t think much of ‘Limits to Growth’ either, if the following passage from their comet-impact novel ‘Lucifer’s Hammer’ is any guide to their thinking.

    (Space scientist Dr Charles Sharps is a guest on the ‘Tonight’ show shortly after the comet’s discovery)…
    “Johnny, did you ever hear of the Club of Rome?”
    Johnny had, but the audience would need reminding. “They were the people who did computer simulations to find out how long we could get along on our natural resources. Even with zero population growth—”
    “They tell us we’re finished,” Sharps broke in. “And that’s stupid. We’re only finished because they won’t let us really use technology. They say we’re running out of metals. There’s more metal in one little asteroid than was mined all over the world in the last five years! And there are hundreds of thousands of asteroids. All we have to do is go get ’em.”
    “Can we?”
    “You bet! Even with the technology we already have, we could do it. Johnny, out there in space it’s raining soup, and we don’t even know about soup bowls.”

  • Rudolph Hucker

    @Johnathan Pearce
    Thanks for the reminder about Robert Zubrin’s book.

    Not mentioned often enough is Völkisch Thinkers and EcoFacism.

    How to ruin a perfectly good conversation with a Green Party friend?
    Ask them if they know the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (NSDAP,Nazi party) was the first Green Party.
    e.g. the introduction on a large scale of organic farming methods, significantly labeled “lebensgesetzliche Landbauweise,” or farming according to the laws of life.

    The “green wing” of the NSDAP was not a group of innocents, confused and manipulated idealists, or reformers from within; they were conscious promoters and executors of a vile program explicitly dedicated to inhuman racist violence, massive political repression and worldwide military domination. Their ‘ecological’ involvements, far from offsetting these fundamental commitments, deepened and radicalized them. In the end, their configuration of environmental politics was directly and substantially responsible for organized mass murder.

    http://www.spunk.org/texts/places/germany/sp001630/peter.html

  • Rob Fisher (Surrey)

    The comments are the best thing about that article, I think.

  • bobby b

    I don’t know the author. If his paean to Limits of Growth is simply tongue-in-cheek – I really can’t tell – then this was fun. If he was sincere about that, then I truly don’t know where he’s going.

  • Paul Marks

    It is a very good quotation – it sums up what has happened.

    The Green movement has gone (only a few decades ago) from being about small is beautiful, localism, small business, handicrafts (making things with your own hands, and growing food), to the exact opposite.

    Everything is to be controlled by a handful of vast Corporations joined-at-the-hip with vast centralised governments – controlling everyone from the cradle to the gave.

    The vision used to be “The Shire” of J.R.R. Tolkien – now the vision is glass, concrete and steel cities, with constant observation (even in your own home – by various electronic devices) all controlled by a handful of giant corporations (the lockdowns were so-very-useful in getting rid of small business enterprises) and government with limitless spending (financed by creating money from NOTHING) and endless regulations controlling every aspect of life. There will be wild areas away from the cities – but your car will not take you there, because it will be an electric car and you will not decide where it goes. Agenda 2030 – “you will own nothing, and you will be happy” (you had better “be happy” or they will take People’s Republic of China style action against you, they love the PRC Social Credit model).

    The vision of Klaus Schwab (and the Legion of others) – the WEF, the U.N. and all the rest, “Build Back Better” is a WEF-U.N. slogan – and “Great Reset” is the title of Dr Schwab’s book.

    All rather unfortunate.

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