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Samizdata practical advice of the day

If you find yourself moved to attend a public protest in the UK, but are not a member of a group that your local Plod choose to kneel in support of, might I suggest you protect yourself, because it is likely violent thugs may decide your protest is unwanted.

A good way to do this is by attending future protests with a good (but generic) motorbike helmet (which also means you are wearing a ‘face covering’, for Covid-19, you understand) and stout boots to protect your feet. Full biker leathers (also generic and unadorned) are optional but also have much to commend them, and these can be armoured and reinforced in all sorts of way.

17 comments to Samizdata practical advice of the day

  • Snorri Godhi

    I practiced no-contact/light-contact karate (the best for people whose work requires functional brains).
    Most of the men, including me, wore groin protection in competition.
    Accidents do happen.

  • Seth

    They’re not kneeling in support of anything. They’re kneeling because they’re mentally deficient preeners.

  • Mr Ecks

    And in this age of “deadly plandemic” good strong reinforced gloves also protect your hands from infection.

  • Vatsmith

    How about a six foot English quarterstaff as well (just in order to measure the correct social distancing)?

  • The police seem determined to lose all the outpouring of public support they got from the murder of the custody sergeant just the other day…

  • APL

    JuliaM: “The police seem determined to lose all the outpouring of public support they got from the murder of the custody sergeant just the other day…”

    I must be an outlier, they didn’t get any outpouring of support from me. Two of my first questions were: How the **** did a suspect get into the ‘custody suite’ with a weapon of any description? And, if he didn’t bring it in with him, how did he wrest a loaded weapon from a police officer while he was already there?

    All we need to know now, was the officer who was shot, delivered the coup de grace while kneeling in abject BLM submission?

  • Zerren Yeoville

    Some seem puzzled as to why the police respond differently to protests by different groups: Douglas Murray in an article for ‘The Spectator’ ponders that “…it started to look deeply selective, this enforcing of the law dependent on the lawbreaker’s motivations. For it is now clear that the police in Britain and other countries do not take the same benevolent attitude towards all protestors.”

    Mr Murray (and those similarly bemused) need wonder no more, because it’s really not that difficult to grasp the reason for the different treatment of anti-lockdown protesters compared with BLM or XR protesters.

    All you have to do is just ask yourself this one simple question:

    ‘Is this demonstration calling for more liberty and freedom and to diminish State control of the population, or less liberty and freedom and to increase State control of the population?’

    If the former, then you are presenting yourself as an opponent of State power. Expect to be ill-treated and possibly injured by State enforcers.

    If the latter, then you are presenting yourself instead as a supporter of more State power. Expect the State’s enforcers to give you kid-glove treatment and to do everything to facilitate your protest (i.e. XR’s ‘let’s block a busy London street with a yacht’ stunt).

  • bobby b

    “Is this demonstration calling for more liberty and freedom . . . “

    I think you’re overthinking the basic cop mentality.

    Who’s more likely to fight back, to create problems, to make a cop’s future career difficult, to put a stain on a cop’s record, to scream “raysizm!” when a cop speaks harshly to them even when they’re white?

    Not normies. Normies are an easy target. It’s like the old days are back again when you get to bust a normie – tell them once, smack them down and immobilize them, drag them off. You can’t do that with the rads – you have to wear kid gloves with them.

    They don’t make it easy to support them, do they?

  • XC

    Remember, a skateboard is innocent transportation. Just because it looks like a buckler doesn’t mean anything.

    Are ya’ll allowed to carry cricket bats? I know spoons are dangerously close to knives, just not sure about sporting equipment.

    -XC

  • Fraser Orr

    @Zerren Yeoville
    ‘Is this demonstration calling for more liberty and freedom and to diminish State control of the population, or less liberty and freedom and to increase State control of the population?’

    I don’t find your “self interest” argument convincing at all. After all, which side is calling for the abolition of the police? Exclusively the Antifa/BLM crowd. Who is chanting “pigs in a blanket, fry ’em like bacon”? Exclusively the Antifa/BLM crowd. Who is yelling at the police “Get ready to f***ing die”? Exclusively the Antifa/BLM crowd. Who is actually assaulting police, throwing missiles and molotov cocktails at the police? Exclusively the Antifa/BLM crown. Who is actually shooting and beating up policemen? Exclusively the Antifa/BLM crowd.

    However, as bobby mentioned, the extreme hassle of dealing with these guys if you arrest them, the extreme personal danger and risk to your career and your person means that the immediate risks outweigh these longer term risks. One has to remember that every cop in America sees those various cops who had to shoot some thug, up on capital murder charges and thinks “there but for the grace of god go I”.

  • Mr Ed

    I don’t find your “self interest” argument convincing at all. After all, which side is calling for the abolition of the police? Exclusively the Antifa/BLM crowd.

    The Antifa/BLM crowd want to abolish the police, they say, and they do. But only so that the police can be replaced with a more reliable force wholly under their control and wholly politicised. Whether that is an impossible fantasy or not is not on point, they are not seeking to abolish State coercion.

    And on your own case, the willingness of the police to kowtow to those who would sack them (and kill them given the chance) and the willingness to attack those who have no such agenda and are no threat, is all the more disgusting.

  • Paul Marks

    I have nothing to add.

  • Ferox

    Remember that wasps are everywhere, so it’s a good idea to bring some wasp spray along (the kind that sprays 25 feet) just in case you run into a large nest during the peaceful protest.

  • I have nothing to add.

    Who are you and what have you done with Paul Marks? 😆

  • Fraser Orr

    @Mr Ed
    And on your own case, the willingness of the police to kowtow to those who would sack them (and kill them given the chance) and the willingness to attack those who have no such agenda and are no threat, is all the more disgusting.

    I find this a curious statement. Surely you want the police to act to enforce the law irrespective of the impact of that on their own personal agenda? It seems to me that the restraint of many police officers in the face of quite dreadful abuse shows the individual officers in a very positive light.

  • lucklucky

    You must understand that the State is controlled by the Extreme Left because they control the Education Complex.. Probably most police had already received indoctrination in workshops paid by your taxes. And at this time i am sure police and armed forces curricula have been already modified to neo-marxist theories, they will only intensify in the future. Boris is completely clueless or even agree with.

    Then you have to look at the “journalist propaganda code” for example how the word “activist” appeared?

    Journalists call Activist = Extremists that journalists like. While they call Extremists to those that journalist do not like.

    Protests = Political Violence that journalists agree with . Violence, Militarisation= Violence that they don’t agree with.

  • lucklucky

    “I find this a curious statement. Surely you want the police to act to enforce the law irrespective of the impact of that on their own personal agenda? It seems to me that the restraint of many police officers in the face of quite dreadful abuse shows the individual officers in a very positive light.”

    That is why they attacked peaceful people? because they did not needed to show restrain?

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