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Bob Moran saying it like it is

Full interview can be found here on Media Scum.

22 comments to Bob Moran saying it like it is

  • Shlomo Maistre

    Just your daily reminder that the Fake News Media is an enemy of the People.

    Enemy.

  • Paul Marks

    Yes Shlomo Maistre – as the Mr Moran said, the way the news was reported (by the BBC – and others) was morally wrong.

    It is a standard Oxford PPE (philosophy, politics and economics) question at interview – would you divert a train that was going to kill five people, if by doing so you would only kill one person. If the prospective student answers “yes” – the following question is, then who not take the organs from one person if by doing so you can save five other people from death?

    “For the record” the lockdowns did NOT save lives – we know that by looking at the various places in the world that did NOT lockdown, but even if they had “saved lives” – Mr Moran is correct, we have no right to kill some innocent people (kill BY the lockdowns) in order to, hopefully, save other people.

    What would have “saved lives” is EARLY TREATMENT of Covid 19 – but the whole policy of “lockdown till the vaccines come” was based on TINET (there-is-no-early-treatment) – indeed Emergency Authorisation for untested “vaccines” could only be got on the basis of TINET (certainly in the United States) – so anyone who questioned TINET had to be censored – or presented as a lunatic. Ditto anyone who points out that the injections have HEALTH RISKS of their own.

    Now it turns out that the vaccines are leaky – that they do not prevent infection or spread, and that they may help new variants emerge. In short far from the unvaccinated being a threat to the vaccinated – it may (may) be the case that the vaccinated are a threat to the unvaccinated.

    We also have a total disregard for Natural Immunity (or rather Natural Resistance – T. Cells and so on) – with people who have had the virus being told they should get the injections (which is insane).

    And even HEALTHY CHILDREN are being given the injections (which is a wicked thing to do – as the injections are far more of a risk to healthy children than Covid 19 is).

    But then Mr Biden said (and I watched him say it – in a televised “Townhall” in 2020) that even eight year old children should have “Trans” rights.

    Eight year old children.

    For someone who would say such a thing, to support these Covid injections for children is just what one would expect.

  • Paul Marks

    Perhaps the most famous death of 2020 was caused by a lockdown.

    Mr George Floyd had a troubled life – drugs led him to do terrible things (such as hold a weapon to the throat of a pregnant women, as he was robbing her home to get more money for his drug addiction) – but he had got off drugs and got himself a job.

    But then the Minnesota lockdown came – and he lost his job, and went back to drugs.

    Had Mr Floyd been in a non lockdown State such as Nebraska (a lower Covid death rate than Minnesota) he might well be alive today.

  • Shlomo Maistre

    Paul Marks have you signed up for your 22nd booster injection yet?

  • Ed Turnbull

    For Xmas my wife bought me a T-shirt emblazoned with one of Bob’s cartoons, specifically this one. It communicates a powerful message, one I’m proud to have plastered across my chest.

  • Stonyground

    So, when do the prosecutions begin?

  • Stonyground

    “For the record” the lockdowns did NOT save lives – we know that by looking at the various places in the world that did NOT lockdown…”

    This should come as no surprise to anyone who has even the most basic knowledge of how viruses multiply, spread and eventually become relatively harmless. The strains of the virus that make people very ill don’t spread as rapidly as the ones that cause less serious illness. So the virus gradually evolves to be less harmful as those strains are the ones that multiply more. Meanwhile, survivors of the illness and those who are exposed to it but don’t succumb start to build immunity to it. All the lockdowns and isolating people is doing is slowing this process down. It is based on the same flawed logic as the idea that you can save energy by using a low powered kettle that uses half as much energy for twice as long. There was some logic to it at the beginning when there was concerns over IC units being overwhelmed. Maybe holding back the tide until a vaccine was available made sense. But now there is little point in carrying on with restrictions that have been shown not to work.

  • Paul Marks

    Stonyground – they will prosecute us, not the other way round.

    As I try (and FAIL) to explain to such people as the group around “National Review” – putting one’s faith in the institutions (such as the courts) is out of date. The “long march through the institutions” by the collectivists is complete – the institutions are on the other side now. Still let us hope that the American Supreme Court at least strikes down the “vaccine mandates” – and let us hope certain Supreme Court “Justices” formally apologise for the LIES (blatant LIES) they told on Friday.

    Why are medical doctors and medical academics who tell the truth censored and “fact checked” – whereas Supreme Court “Justices” who blatantly LIE (LIE about very serious matters) face no consequences at all?

    That question cuts at the heart of the problem we face – the international (world) system is rotten, rotten to the core.

  • Paul Marks

    No SM I never did have a “booster”.

    Not out of me having a desperate fear of side effects (they seem to be rare – although it is TOO SOON TO TELL what the long term problems from the injections will be), but rather because I just find the endless demands of Mr Johnson annoying. Indeed I have reached the point when I can not stand listening to him for more than a couple of minutes – regardless of the subject.

    It is quite possible that if a Prime Minister, or a local doctor (I have heard NOTHING from my local medical practice since the summer – just endless letters from the national NHS) spoke rationally and said “the risk to you of Covid 19 is very high (due to COPD and so on) and the risk of the “booster” is lower – although very real” I would actually take the shot.

    But listening to arrogant people such as Mr Johnson and the Health Secretary (no my dear friends at “Central Office” I do not dislike him because he is a Muslim – I would dislike him just as much if he was a Methodist) talk DOWN to people, SNEER at everyone (including medical doctors) is just too irritating.

    “Paul you are confusing the messenger with the message” – perhaps that is true, but if the messenger is a known deceiver, it rather undermines the message.

  • Nunaya Beezwhacks

    @ Stonyground “There was some logic to it at the beginning when there was concerns over IC units being overwhelmed. Maybe holding back the tide until a vaccine was available made sense.”

    Actually, health policy makers in the West knew early on that Hydroxychloroquine and/or Ivermectin were an accidental viable treatment by studying the spread of the original Kung Flu virus in countries where those drugs were routinely administered for malaria prevention. A highly respected French epidemiologist published a PEER REVIEWED study to that effect in February 2020 about the efficacy of hydroxychloroquine as a treatment for Kung Flu. That study was dismissed by CDC, NIH, and NIAID(that’s Fauci’s agency) as quackery, even though it was peer reviewed, because the drug companies were going hammer and tong, spending lots of money, to come up with a new treatment AND, more importantly, because the study wasn’t generated from and controlled by one of the above mentioned agencies, especially NIAID. Now, just recently, another study reveals that Viagra, the little blue pecker pill, also has preventative/curative effects against Kung Flu because apparently Nitrous Oxide, which Viagra increases in the blood, has deleterious effects on the virus.

    This jab regimen, at the very least, has always been about profits for drug companies, perhaps among other more nefarious reasons, because they can’t make a ton of money from drugs that are off patent. That fact should and would lead to the realization that drug companies are not altruistic, no matter how the sycophant press paints them. It always is, has been and always will be about profits, because they don’t make money by curing patients with established, proven safe drugs that are off patent.

    Don’t believe any of the above? Look at the articles about how India kicked Kung Flu to the curb by giving EVERYONE in the country hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin. Also, look at the disease spread in African countries that routinely dispense hydroxychloroquine for malaria prevention.

  • Shan Zhen Shi

    It seems to me that in the USA, the relevant government agencies (CDC, NIH), have been captured by “Big Pharma”. The attacks on Hydroxchlorquine in March of 2020, and then on Ivermectin later, made no sense on medical grounds. Both drugs were well known to be extremely safe. Even if they had turned out to be ineffective, doctors still should have been able to prescribe these drugs. To launch a full-on media attack on both drugs seemed crazy to me at the time. Today, I regard the attacks on both drugs as evil, because they both work better than aspirin, perhaps a lot better. Note that “regulatory capture” is the most favorable view, it could be worse.

  • Shlomo Maistre

    Not out of me having a desperate fear of side effects (they seem to be rare

    Rare? Um, what planet are you on?

    https://openvaers.com/

  • bobby b

    “It seems to me that in the USA, the relevant government agencies (CDC, NIH), have been captured by “Big Pharma”.”

    Following the theory that stupidity is more common than evil, I think their anti-treatment reasoning was “if we let people think there are treatments, they won’t be so willing to vax.”

  • Shlomo Maistre

    Following the theory that stupidity is more common than evil, I think their anti-treatment reasoning was “if we let people think there are treatments, they won’t be so willing to vax.”

    Are stupidity and evil always mutually exclusive? Are stupidity and evil even usually mutually exclusive?

    I think the answer to both of these questions is no.

    But in any case, I’m not sure that the anti-treatment reasoning was stupidity at all. Sounds like they did their job and kept their real bosses happy by squashing and suppressing treatments. Evil? Yes. Stupid? No way.

    They were just following the $cience.

  • Rudolph Hucker

    just following the $cience.

    I like that. That reminds me, there’s a great piece of proper investigative journalism still to be done. That is, the pharma jobs/consultancy positions and shareholdings of all the UK SAGE committee and sub/committee members.

    If I remember correctly, it is standing orders that all such potential conflicts of interest should be declared. But that’s been sidestep with a statement with the weasel suffix “at the proper time“. Which might be 50 years after each person has died. Not now while the pesky public might hold them to account.

  • Colin Douglas

    I first became suspicious of the vaccines early on when I read of the indemnification of liability for the pharmaceutical manufacturers against ANY side effects they may cause. And, that caution was confirmed, when I read that they would not be releasing their trial testing records for 75 years. Add to that, The Front Line Doctors research and stance against Vaccines and for HCQ and Ivermectin (not to mention how they’ve been treated by “Establishment Medicine”), The FLCCC and their approach to “Prevention & Treatment Protocols for COVID-19”, the fact that ‘elite’ athletes in impeccable shape are dropping dead all over the world after being jabbed, and finally, the ties and quotes of the “Global Elites” to their Agenda 21 and Agenda 2030 ludicrous goals of world de-population, I’ll say that the entire worldwide medical profession, from the pharmaceutical companies to the regulatory agencies to the medical insurance companies to the individual doctors, nurses and staff, have ALL lost one helluva lot of respect from ‘we the people’ and we will now DISTRUST everything they say and do !!!

  • Paul Marks

    Nunaya B. is correct.

    The international establishment knew that there was effective Early Treatment for Covid 19 – and they deliberately smeared Early Treatment.

    Perhaps it was just greed – Early Treatment not being profitable for the drug companies (as the early treatment medications were well established medications – not new ones), or perhaps they really did convince themselves that they would be creating a wonderful new world – and that casualties (from Covid 19) were a price worth paying to achieve that wonderful new world.

    I do not know, I just do not know.

    Perhaps it was a bit of both – plus a lot of bureaucratic incompetence thrown in. After all when we say “they knew” – the “they” need only be a few people. The rest of the politicians and administrators following like sheep.

  • Rudolph Hucker

    Peter Daszak, one of the “usual suspects” (the “they” that knew) is in the news again.

    EcoHealth Alliance wanted to block disclosure of Covid-19-relevant virus data from China

    Emails newly obtained by U.S. Right to Know reveal that EcoHealth Alliance President Peter Daszak opposed the public release of Covid-19-related virus sequence data gathered from China as part of the U.S. government-funded PREDICT “virus hunting” program that identifies and tracks unknown viruses.
    In the emails, Daszak wrote, “It’s extremely important we don’t have these sequences as part of our PREDICT release to Genbank at this point…Having them as part of PREDICT will being [sic] very unwelcome attention to UC Davis, PREDICT and USAID.”

    https://usrtk.org/biohazards-blog/ecohealth-alliance-wanted-to-block-disclosure-of-covid-19-relevant-virus-data-from-china/?mc_cid=717a530cbc&mc_eid=6a0e38f1d9

  • Rudolph Hucker

    And here’s another one of the “usual suspects” in the news:

    Military Documents About Gain of Function Contradict Fauci Testimony Under Oath

    Military documents state that EcoHealth Alliance approached DARPA in March 2018 seeking funding to conduct gain of function research of bat borne coronaviruses. The proposal, named Project Defuse, was rejected by DARPA over safety concerns and the notion that it violates the gain of function research moratorium.

    The main report regarding the EcoHealth Alliance proposal leaked on the internet a couple of months ago, it has remained unverified until now. Project Veritas has obtained a separate report to the Inspector General of the Department of Defense, written by U.S. Marine Corp Major, Joseph Murphy, a former DARPA Fellow.

    The proposal, named Project Defuse, was rejected by DARPA over safety concerns and the notion that it violates the basis gain of function research moratorium. According to the documents, NIAID, under the direction of Dr. Fauci, went ahead with the research in Wuhan, China and at several sites across the U.S.

    Dr. Fauci has repeatedly maintained, under oath, that the NIH and NAIAD have not been involved in gain of function research with the EcoHealth Alliance program. But according to the documents obtained by Project Veritas which outline why EcoHealth Alliance’s proposal was rejected, DARPA certainly classified the research as gain of function.

    https://www.projectveritas.com/news/military-documents-about-gain-of-function-contradict-fauci-testimony-under/

  • Paul Marks

    Rudolph Hucker.

    Now no one can honestly pretend that they do not know that Tony Fauci is a criminal.

    However, the system (the FBI and so on) have known for many years that Joseph Biden is a criminal – and have done nothing.

    The system itself is criminal now – which is those “conservatives” who still put their faith in “the institutions” (“the system”) are in error.

  • David Norman

    Thank you Perry for posting this heartfelt and moving interview. I agree with Moran’s views almost entirely and signed the Great Barrington Declaration as soon as it surfaced. Like many others I suspect, thinking about the Gadarene rush to lockdowns and other unethical and futile restrictions on the part of Governments makes me so furious with contempt that I have to stop the thinking.

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