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Samizdata quote of the day

“The really big point is that far from being a tumultuous, cacophonic, unstable, firecracker of a polity, Brexit Britain is starting to feel like a relative island of calm, more at ease with itself than it has been for many years, led by a sort of 1950s Prime Minister, who is nearly 20 points ahead in the polls. The spotlight of worry has swivelled round elsewhere, to Greece, France and to the United States. If Brexit is a revolution, it is so far turning out to be a very British and incremental one, lacking in violence or upset. More tea, vicar?”

George Trefgarne

Indeed. What has struck me about some on the Remain side, for example, is that they have been coming across as a bid mad, unpleasant or utopian, not the other side. It is pretty hard to portray the likes of David Davis, for example, as fire-eating radicals when the eurozone, for example, is and remains an economic clusterfuck of Old Testament proportions.

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10 comments to Samizdata quote of the day

  • Charlie Suet

    There does seem to be a determination in some quarters to portray ongoing membership of the EU as if it were neutral (like, say, Canada’s membership of NAFTA). It isn’t simply that hardcore Remoaners think that on balance the current positives of membership outweigh the negatives. It’s more that they don’t recognise that any further future negatives might arise at all. In the static sense this might be slightly more justifiable (I should say that I myself voted Remain on a sort of cost-benefit analysis, though I now regret it).

    But there’s a refusal to admit that the situation might change and a navel-gazing tendency to ignore what is actually happening in the EU. Certainly some Tory Remainers seem trapped in a past where Europe represents a go-getting future and Britain absolutely must be a part of that, and nothing that happens to the Eurozone can shake them out of it.

  • lucklucky

    While i am pro Brexit, there is still no Brexit in effect.

    “the eurozone, for example, is and remains an economic clusterfuck of Old Testament proportions.”

    Eurozone is a clusterfuck -i’ll pass the hyperbole – because countries there don’t abide by the rules not because it is a eurozone. Britain in 70’s was also CF because of the same reasons.

  • lucklucky

    Current political/economic system is dependent on monetary growth at all costs so when Capitalism productivity “sabotages” that political/economic logic there is trouble.

  • Patrick Crozier

    “If Brexit is a revolution, it is so far turning out to be a very British and incremental one, lacking in violence or upset.”

    A glorious revolution, perhaps?

  • Mr Ed

    The Express is reporting that Greece is considering ditching the Euro for dollarisation, sounds a bit implausible, but if the Loony Left of Ecuador (where in for the next Presidential election, the leading candidate’s first name is ‘Lenín‘) can do it, I suppose the Greek Brothers could be persuaded to swallow it.

    It would even more be fun to ask the Remoaners to explain the benefits of the EU to Greece should this happen. (Basically, left to their own devices they’d be even worse is presumably the point, but why should we be like mountaineers roped to a bunch of drunks?).

  • Snag

    the leading candidate’s first name is ‘Lenín‘

    There’s a regional politician in India called M. K. Stalin

  • In the SQOTD, George Trefgarne writes:

    More tea, vicar?

    Later in his article, we find:

    In fact, Mrs May is a person of deep moral seriousness, to the point of being almost dull. There has not been such a morally serious occupant of Downing Street since Margaret Thatcher. Indeed, this is her most salient characteristic.

    I am somewhat encouraged by this view of May, the vicar’s daughter. But on a background leading to sound economic policy, is not the grocer’s view more material?

    Best regards

  • Cal Ford

    Because Brexit has gone so well (so far), and the Remainers have been exposed as so loony, a lot of people who voted Remain have come over to Brexit — see, for eg., here:
    https://twitter.com/PaulJDavison/status/831264042052354048

  • Paul Marks

    I was born in England and have lived here all my life – and I recognise the above quotation as a typical example of English writing.

    I think I will leave it at that.

  • PeterT

    For all the noise, nothing has yet happened. As is often the case with crises, only a small minority predict them, with everybody else blithely carrying on their business as usual. It is an illusion to think that we can somehow come up with a bespoke agreement with the EU within 2 years, at least one that is better than what we could have with EEA membership (Norway option). Whilst everything is likely to be fine eventually, it’s such a shame that the quick and easy way of leaving the EU (and yes it is leaving) appears to have been discarded, for what is certain to be a less beneficial outcome – even through the eyes of the more hard core Brexiteers.

    And the fact that the UK’s economic and political environment looks slightly more positive on the basis of a few GDP forecasts, does not provide any comfort. Many of the Northern European countries have much better fiscal balances than the UK does, for example. Don’t envy their RoP problems of course.