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Samizdata quote of the day

Politicians: The kind of people who think they can ban math

– the hilariously named “InfoSec Taylor Swift” referencing Dismal Dave Cameron.

22 comments to Samizdata quote of the day

  • PeterT

    Cameron has been doing a better job than usual recently of convincing me to vote UKIP, whatever their flaws, with this and his super-obvious attempts at avoiding debating Farage. Cameron is truly a man beneath contempt.

  • Lee Moore

    I am never disappointed by Dave. He was always an all mouth and no trousers prat, selected as party leader on the basis that he was thought to be acceptable to the BBC. Milliband is aso a prat of course, but I really can’t see any downside in voting for UKIP. If it lets Labour back in, they might be marginally worse than the Lib-Con shower, but the bonus is that Cameron would be dumped. The law of averages would then give a 50-50 chance of a less prattish Tory leader replacing him. I spotted another bit of Cameron idiocy on the internet the other day, re the little flap about breastfeeding in public a few weeks back :

    “The Prime Minister shares the view of the NHS which is that breastfeeding is completely natural and it’s totally unacceptable for any woman to be made to feel uncomfortable when breastfeeding in public”.

    It’s not that breastfeeding in public is a bad thing, it’s the sheer brainlessness of the explanation. Does he support peeing, pooing and copulation in public because they’re completely natural ?

  • it was the “shares the view of the NHS” bit that got me.

  • “The Prime Minister shares the view of the NHS which is that masturbation is completely natural and it’s totally unacceptable for any man to be made to feel uncomfortable when masturbating in public”.

    Maybe breastfeeding is acceptable in public. But its acceptability, or otherwise, has absolutely bugger-all to do with it being “natural”.

    “it was the “shares the view of the NHS” bit that got me.”

    Yep. That makes it unarguable. “The state religion” indeed.

  • Regional

    Politicians and their cronies in the Meeja cannot leave a lie untold or smear unspread and largesse flows from an inexhaustible a magic spring.
    On a lighter issue the Great Satan is upon the land i.e. The Pommy Krikit team is in Astraya.

  • George Atkisson

    I would generalize further and state that politicians are the kind of people who think they can ban consequences.

  • Cal

    > The law of averages would then give a 50-50 chance of a less prattish Tory leader replacing him.

    Unfortunately not. Most of them are equally prattish, or even more, so the odds of that happening are small.

    Would we want George Osborne, for instance, who just the other day declared that even more young people should be wasting three years of their life going to University? Thankfully he appears to have bowed out of the race, and the two front-runners are now May and Boris. Boris pretends to be a Eurosceptic libertarian, but isn’t. May… well, who has any idea of what she stands for, other than a general incompetence, and pretending (all too obviously) to be a taker of tough lines?

  • Reuven

    The priest compared the philosopher to a blind man in a dark room looking for a black cat which was not there. “That may be said the philosopher, “but the theologian asserts he has found it.”

    Dear Illuminati: math is also construed as many other fields.

  • “Politicians: The kind of people who think they can ban math”

    And why not? They already think they can ban economics, thought and human nature (to mention but three).

  • CaptDMO

    They already think they can ban economics, thought and human nature.
    Which is why I’m a “desperate bitter clinger” to my guns and…uh…Aesop, Brothers Grimm, Shakespeare.
    (ALSO to mention but three)

  • It puts me in mind of a great Thomas Sowell quote:

    “The first lesson of economics is scarcity: there is never enough of anything to fully satisfy all those who want it. The first lesson of politics is to disregard the first lesson of economics.”

  • Regional

    Cal,
    How did Boris go as Mayor of London?
    He seems to me to be able to keep his options open.
    He’s not a cunt, which is an unusual quality for a lot of politicians; Look at the present world leaders and tell me who isn’t a cunt, apart from Angelia Merkel?

  • John Galt III

    Harper of Canada is ok and so is Abbott about half the time. The good guy is Ted Cruz but he is despised by Democrats and the Karl Rover Republicans: RINO’s.

  • Regional

    John Galt III,
    Tony Abbott’s big problem is a very influential whimmens lobby mainly centred in the North Shore of Sinny.

  • Lee Moore

    “Tony Abbott’s big problem is a very influential whimmens lobby mainly centred in the North Shore of Sinny.”

    Not entirely convinced. I have a good friend in Oz (WA) who runs his own small business, thinks about politics once every four years, and when he does, is an instinctive “mind your own business’ conservative. But he loathes Abbott (and loathed him before the last election) simply on the basis that he is a mad monk, far right, clueless, sexist, heartless, all the usual stuff. All courtesy of of the messaging of the lefty Aussie media (esp ABC)

    The constant background noise of lefty propaganda works pretty well on low intensity voters, even in a country like Oz where the lefties do not have a 100% media monopoly. That is precisely why – as I mentioned above – the Tories selected Cameron. Hague and Howard had been destroyed by the BBC. Cameron was thought to be less unacceptable to them, and in fact, though they’ve continued to be strongly anti-Tory, they have more or less kept to their side of the deal. So long as he doesn’t step off the PC yellow brick road, they don’t set the dogs on him. The price – obviously – is that you get a Tory leader who is acceptable to the BBC – ie the sort of bloke who appoints Chris Patten to be in charge of the BBC !

  • Cal

    >Owen Paterson possibly?

    Yes, I’d vote for him. But I can’t see him getting far. The BBC and The Guardian will savage him, and many natural Tories who might have voted for him will have already gone across to UKIP.

    >How did Boris go as Mayor of London?

    Okay. Better than Livingstone, sure, but if that’s your bar… Look, there’s not that much you can do as Mayor, but Johnston has changed little.

    >He seems to me to be able to keep his options open.

    Yes. But I would describe that more as an inability to stick to his principles. (That’s partly because he’s more appearance than substance.)

    >He’s not a cunt

    Well, many people who actually know him say he is.

    >>“Tony Abbott’s big problem is a very influential whimmens lobby mainly centred in the North Shore of Sinny.”
    >Not entirely convinced. I have a good friend in Oz (WA) who runs his own small business, thinks about politics once every four years, and when he does, is an instinctive “mind your own business’ conservative. But he loathes Abbott (and loathed him before the last election) simply on the basis that he is a mad monk, far right, clueless, sexist, heartless, all the usual stuff. All courtesy of of the messaging of the lefty Aussie media (esp ABC)

    I’ve just had exactly the same experience from a visiting Australian conservative voter. Abbott is doing a bad job at dealing with the bad publicity.

    A good libertarian… well, okay a decent conservative, because there aren’t any libertarians in the picture, needs to be able to deal with being fitted up by the opposition and enemy media, while still being able to attract their natural voters. And that’s a really difficult thing to do in the UK these days.

  • Regional

    Lee Moore and Cal,
    I recently attended my sister’s funeral, there were North Shore Liberal politicians there, I would suggest to you, you haven’t got a clue and when you quote the mantra of Labor Party Central to attack Tony Abbott, that confirms it.

  • Lee Moore

    I think perhaps you have grasped the wrong end of the stick, Regional.

  • Regional

    Lee,
    Federal Elections are at three year intervals.
    The big problem for the Western world is when naïve people have money are manipulated by the Meeja become sophisticated and adopt loopy causes like climate change and refugees to show their compassion and intellectual prowess while not actually doing anything apart from spewing hate at non-Left politicians.

  • Adam Maas

    I’m really surprised that neither the UK nor the Oz Tories have taken a page from the most successful leader of a Conservative Party in the modern era, Steven Harper.

    Simply put, Harper has run rings around the local press via two methods:

    1. Incredibly rigorous message control. He keeps the MP’s who can’t shut up away from the press. So much so that the CBC is constantly complaining about it.

    2. He’s very good at identifying issues where the populace is widely at odds with pressthink, then letting the Press make idiots out of themselves after being bated. See Tar Sands, the return of the RCAF and RCN, his tendency to be very vocal on foreign affairs (he rather publicly told off Putin at the last major summit)

  • Cal

    >I recently attended my sister’s funeral, there were North Shore Liberal politicians there, I would suggest to you, you haven’t got a clue and when you quote the mantra of Labor Party Central to attack Tony Abbott, that confirms it.

    I’m not sure what you’re trying to say here, but the fact is that Abbott is doing a bad job of presenting himself, such that he is losing the crucial swing voters, but isn’t bringing back the old disaffected Liberals either.