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The cheapest of cheap shots

London, January 18, 2013

“Snowfalls are now just a thing of the past”

The Independent, March 20, 2000

23 comments to The cheapest of cheap shots

  • RAB

    Yes. Blizzards are the in thing this year dear. 😉

  • Regional

    The difference in temperature at the momement from yesterday in Wagga is 20°C.

  • Borisgodunov

    Here in Australia it is Summer ,the global warmists are screaming ! The world is doomed it is HOT!
    so whats new ?it is Summer!

  • It is very strange to think and write this sort of stuff a mere 2 years after the great North American ice storm of 1998: what with climate change of the CAGW sort being global. It was the worst winter weather in the region for decades, with that region being south of the whole of the UK.

    Might not a smidgeon of doubt, as to our knowledge on these things, creep into the minds of those who place themselves as taxpayer funded experts. As for those who position themselves within the spectrum from leaders of thought to reporters of fact, regurgitating the clearly moonbat (with a straight pen) is no good way to sell newspapers.

    Best regards

  • Johnathan Pearce

    The Independent is a paper I haven’t read in years. At least the Guardian can be occasionally interesting and its sports coverage is usually first class.

  • Frank S

    Here is an informative graph of snow cover extents in the northern hemisphere since 1966: http://www.climate4you.com/images/NHemisphereSnowCoverSince1966.gif

    The stupidity and ignorance captured by the Independent article is revealed by it, not least of this most notorious extract “According to Dr David Viner, a senior research scientist at the climatic research unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia,within a few years winter snowfall will become “a very rare and exciting event”.

    “Children just aren’t going to know what snow is,” he said.”

    Viner went on to turn the British Council into a propaganda organisation for CAGW alarmism around the world (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/7231466/British-Council-gets-in-on-the-climate-act.html#). He is now working in a private consultancy trying to reap the harvest from that sort of reprehensible seed-sowing (http://www.cisionwire.com/mott-macdonald/r/mott-macdonald-appoints-dr-david-viner-as-principal-advisor-for-climate-change,c9358812).

  • A cheap shot is when your remark is unfair, irrelevant or undeserved in some way, e.g. if you were to sneer at a person’s physical appearance as a substitute for providing arguments as to why they were wrong.

    To make the obvious point that someone’s confident prediction simply did not happen is not a cheap shot; or if it is, it is cheap in a good way – why use up your expensive ammo if the needful can be done at low cost?

  • “Science is organized common sense where many a beautiful theory was killed by an ugly fact.”

    – Thomas Henry Huxley quote

    When you abuse the scientific method to try and put one over on the general public, these ugly facts come back to haunt you.

    Mother nature really can be a bitch at times.

  • Robin Goodfellow

    Remember folks, anecdote is not the singular of science and weather is not the same thing as climate. Except when it conforms to the conclusions of orthodoxy, in which case it is just another example of how they’re right and you should shut up.

  • mike

    Try again…

  • mike

    Hmm. I had a problem commenting.

  • PersonFromPorlock

    Nigel Sedgwick
    January 19, 2013 at 9:00 am

    You can’t really attribute the ice storm to a lack of global warming since it was right around freezing the whole time. Indeed, that’s why it was an ice storm.

    It doesn’t prove global warming, either: it was just… weather.

  • PersonFromPorlock

    Incidentally, the real “cheapest of cheap shots” is to tell somebody to “get a job” when you’re not hiring.

  • veryretired

    But the alarmists don’t care about any of this.

    It doesn’t matter how often they’re wrong in their predictions—they just plow ahead.

    It doesn’t matter how many of their computer models are shown to be worthless, or that the actual climate is not behaving like they project it will, or that any random set of numbers will be turned into hockey sticks—they just plow ahead.

    The conspiratorial emails don’t matter—they just plow ahead.

    The findings of their own colleagues that show warming has stopped, that co2 is a weak factor, that solar changes are much more significant than their models allow, that cloud cover has an enormous unaccounted for effect, and on and on—they just plow ahead.

    Articles in the paper, reports from this or that group, lesson plans in the schools, books about all sorts of calamities from warming, endless regulations about co2, bills in the legislatures at all levels, day after day, week after week, month after month, the alarmists just keep going.

    They don’t care about any of the data, any of the fine points, any of the problems, any of the world that doesn’t conform to their beliefs—they just plow ahead.

    If it wasn’t in the service of such a perverse vision of how society should function, i.e., rule by fiat by the elites unencumbered by any limitations, because it’s an emergency, don’t ya know?, such relentless, indefatigable pursuit of their vision would be almost admirable.

    Almost, but not quite.

    They don’t care whether there’s snow or not. The claim got its headlines, and made the desired impression, and they have now moved on, plowed on, to a whole new set of alarms and warnings. And when those are shown to be false, they will just go on to the next, and the next.

    Because the climate is not, has never been, the issue.

    Control is the issue. It’s the only issue there has ever been.

    And they are determined to have it, as much as there is, over everything and everybody.

    That’s what you’re up against, whether it snows or not.

  • Slartibartfarst

    ^^Wot @veryretired said seems to be borne out in practice.

  • Rob

    In a town in Southern England, there is now four inches of snow accumulated on my balcony wall, with another two inches or so expected.

    I saw a man walking around yesterday in shorts. Perhaps he was a Warmist who refused to believe the evidence of his own eyes?

  • Runcie Balspune

    Control is the issue. It’s the only issue there has ever been.

    This is why I compare the environmentalist lobby with the architects of the Great Leap Forward.

    As with the Maoists, everything they do actually makes things worse, because they are not interested in results, just the control of people, and they are incompetent, and they can always make endless five year plans.

    There are perfectly rational and scientific arguments on how and why the climate is changing and the best way it can be challenged (including doing nothing at all), but the current batch of “watermelon” politics is not the answer.

    What libertarians need to do is bring these infernal architects to book, examine their results endlessly, this isn’t a “cheap shot”, it’s a necessary reminder that we need to continue to challenge the ideology simply because it is wrong.

    The great Jasper Carrot once commentated that the worst thing about the aftermath of a nuclear war would be the smug CND’ers running around in T-shirts saying “I told you so”.

  • Frank S

    I’d rather see ‘plough’ than ‘plow’ but otherwise ‘veryretired’ is spot-on.

    It is routine for the hard left to know that the issue (du jour) is not the issue, but the soft left may not get it. So there is some merit in attacking both issues at the same time. Or perhaps to attack one, and draw attention to the other. Which issue to attack, and which merely to draw attention to, will no doubt vary according to circumstances.

  • Midwesterner

    I saw a man walking around yesterday in shorts. Perhaps he was a Warmist who refused to believe the evidence of his own eyes?

    Nah. He was from Minnesota. They’re known for that. He was just enjoying the weather.

  • Paul Marks

    I doubt they are even sincere. If they are sincere in claiming C02 emissions are evil, they would run lots of PRO NUCLEAR POWER stuff.

    The “Independent”, the “I” and the “Independent on Sunday” are just ways for an ex KGB man to spend money (which came from?????) and bore everyone with his “liberal” left opinions.

  • Tedd

    Natalie’s right, it’s not a cheap shot. Shooting fish in a barrel would be a better phrase.

    Paul, I’ve recently noticed that there’s a new crop of anti-nuclear types (especially since Fukushima) who are livid with AGW alarmists for promoting nuclear power as an alternative to fossil fuels. It’s getting hard to tell the enemies from the friends without a program!

  • Paul Marks

    Tedd – quite so.

  • I quoted one know nothing journalist, in a paper I don’t agree with. And actually, I didn’t quote the journalist, but the headline, which one should never do, because journalists never write their own headlines

    Of course it was a cheap shot.