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When newspapers talk about blogging

Dorian Lynskey in The Guardian has written about the blogosphere in a way that had me grinning by the end of the first paragraph…

I’d love to see his reaction to the Guardian arts blog, where the dynamic often suggests that the argument has spilled out of the crowded bar and escalated into a punchup in the car park.

Yes, the comment sections of blogs, and indeed blog articles themselves, can get a bit like that at times. Although he is writing about the ‘Arts’ blogosphere, some of what he observes also pertains to the political and punditry blogosphere… and some does not, which I also find quite interesting.

However where I think Lynskey is not quite correct is where he writes…

Many of the people who post [comments] on blogs appear to be annoyed not by what the writers say so much as the fact that they’re in a position to say it. You can spot this type because they write things like : “You’ve only written this to provoke a reaction.” Or: “Why did you even write this? What a waste of time.” As if writing to complain about a waste of time were not, in fact, a bigger waste of time. Or, my favourite: “Typical Guardian.” Perhaps they also post on the website of Practical Caravan magazine, complaining: “Typical Practical Caravan. So caravancentric.”

No, not really, I do not think people care that Lynskey is in a position to say what he says. I think what he is observing here is not resentment that he has a gig writing for the ‘Grauniad’ but rather a change in the culture regarding the whole journalistic profession.

People have realised that whilst they may not be journalists, they no longer need to be one in order to editorialise the news. In short, journalism is no longer an ‘institution’, it is just ‘something people with opinions do’. Some people get paid for it and other do it for free. In a sense, we are the journalists now in that we are the ones keeping journals of our opinions on the outrage-of-the-day. People who work for newspapers might be better described as ‘newspaper men’, many of whom are formatting commoditised information, or as ‘reporters’ if they are collecting information to be formatted. The editorialising role is something that the mainstream media has now largely lost their lock on.

If the Guardian tells me car bomb has gone off in Baghdad or a British minister has resigned, I believe them. However I do not need the Guardian to tell me what the significance of that is as the low-down regarding what was behind said ministerial skulduggery is probably better and fresher on Guido Fawkes.

However he is quite correct that criticising a Guardian article in the Guardian’s own comment section for being a ‘typical Guardian article’ is rather bizarre. What were they expecting? It is all the stranger as people in the UK have the advantage that most clear eyed British journalists make little pretence that their newspaper is not partisan (unlike in the USA when the preposterous myth of journalistic impartiality persists), by which I mean each paper has an identifiable political editorial line that colours everything it does… people understand that the Guardian is a left wing statist newspaper, the Telegraph is a right wing statist newspaper with occasional classical liberal pretensions, the Independent is the Al Qaeda House Journal, etc. etc.. Just as people do not read Samizdata and expect to be confronted with a paean to the NHS (that is the Guardian’s job), they should not expect to read an article in the Guardian calling for an end to state education (that is our job).

Nevertheless, love it or loath it (one guess), the Guardian has always been far and away the most internet savvy newspaper and Lynskey seems to have a much better grasp of what blogging is about than the irascible Keith Waterhouse.

4 comments to When newspapers talk about blogging

  • Yes, I was hanging around the garage the other day waiting for my new tyres when I spotted the Waterhouse piece, so I sent an email letter to the editor scolding him and pointing out the failures of the mainstream press to keep as up to date as the blogs do. Later they got back and said they would print tomorrow – we’ll see.

  • “most so-called citizen journalists are a disgrace to the profession they would belong to if only they were allowed in it.”

    Ha ha.

    Just because we don’t get paid, don’t have some degree or some union card, doesn’t mean we aren’t at it.

    This opinion by journalists is, I think, a form of self-delusion. There is momentous change to their profession, and they don’t want to believe that it’s happening.

  • Astrid Gottstad

    It is interesting how some dynamics can been see in all the blogospheres but others are particular (or at least more prevalent) in some blogospheres than others.

    Also, blogs like LGF or Kos encourage much rougher comments, more demagogical (is that an English word?) whereas Samizdata keep discourse more under control to some extent.

  • RAB

    Let’s not be too hard on Mr Waterhouse.
    He is very old and still writes with a manual typewriter.
    He has never been on the internet so his understanding of it is very second hand.
    I will be ever grateful for his Billy Liar and Geffrey Bernard is unwell.