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Samizdata quote of the day – Europe’s philosophic sickness edition “The funniest thing I’ve ever heard is that the kids are rioting in Paris because of ‘educational inequality’. I was taught in classes of 30 in wooden huts so cold you could see your breath in winter, but it never occurred to me to burn down the town hall. This isn’t a ‘legitimate expression of rage’, it is a pathology, evidence that the whole of Europe – not just France – has a cancer, of which violence and decay are merely the symptoms. Our tumour is bad philosophy. It has been growing for years.”
– Tim Stanley, Daily Telegraph (£)
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Ironically, Tim Stanley is an exemplar of the very mindset that permeates the ‘Conservative’ wing of the Uniparty
Perry, maybe, but he’s right on the money here.
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This has been predicted for at least 25 years by what the legacy media would call the Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar Right. And the enablers of the Faaaaaaaaaaaaar Left – part & parcel of current evenements en France are still in complete denial as to their responsibility…..
I mean what do you expect if you tell kids from the cradle that they have a right to this and a right to that. Maybe they actually believe you?
France is the very epitome of suicidal empathy where the work rules have gotten crazy, 35 hours a week (though that is too much and they are trying to reduce it) masses of vacation and fully paid PTO, retirement on huge pensions in your 50s, free healthcare, free school, free university, free everything. I think a lot of people here in the USA would take some pretty direct action were the government try to take away our right to own weapons for defense, or our right to speak our minds without government censorship. So if you think “free everything, and a pony” is a right at that same level (which of course it isn’t — they are categorically different) then their reaction is very much in line with this.
And in a world with “free everything” if you have the suicidal empathy to allow any waif and stray, any terrorist and monster from around the world to take up residence in your country and tap into that endless flood of “free everything” then how can the result not be exactly what we are seeing? I mean just as well the English are very “don’t make a fuss” or it’d be happening there too.
There is a saying: what is the difference between a human and a dog? If you find a dog lying sick and starving in the gutter, you pick it up, clean it off, feed and and bind up its wounds, then the dog will be grateful and will not bite you in the face or rip out your throat.
When I think of that saying, I think of Ilhan Omar, the very poster child for such behavior.
In primary school we were taught in Nissan Huts.
In junior school we were taught on classes of more than 40.
In Grammar school the classes were over 30.
My University of Technology was converted from a Technical College (and we didn’t join in with student discontent elsewhere in the late sixties).
I guess that, by luck or judgement, I received an education, not an indoctrination.
“Ironically, Tim Stanley is an exemplar of the very mindset that permeates the ‘Conservative’ wing of the Uniparty”
Yes, the very same Tim Stanley who is currently peddling the Tory Party as the solution to our woes. Who was in power for 14 years until just very recently, and did less than nothing at all about all these issues when it had the power to do so then Timmy? Who actually made things ten times worse? Was it Labour? No. Was it Reform? No. Was it even the Limp Dems or the water melon Greens? No. It was your beloved Tories Timmy, and they should be swinging from lamp posts because of it.
France has the highest government spending of any major country on Earth.
And the schools where the rioting started get MORE money than the peaceful rural schools. The looting of shops and the burning of buildings shows the mainstream media account of the riots is a lie – the same “mostly peaceful” lie they told about the riots of 2020 in the United States.
The riots are a combination (an alliance) of the far left and the “New French” – who are not French and hate France.
“But they were born in France” – the Europeans who were forced out of Algeria in the 1960s came from families who had lived there for over a century, but they were not Algerian – that was made very clear to them. Being “born there” counted for nothing.
Charles De Gaulle (one of the greatest anti-Nazis) wanted to prevent this problem in France occuring – he kept out mass Third World immigration. If they are not allowed in, their children and children’s children are not “born there” – so there is no tragedy.
But the successors of Charles De Gaulle betrayed him – and betrayed France.
Fraser Orr – excellent comment.
Jim – Tim Stanley backed the Social Democratic Party in the election of 2024.
But if you want to see the root of the Conservative Party failure to stand against this agenda – you have to go back a lot further than the 14 years of doing nothing to stand up against the officials and “experts”.
You have to go back to the moment that Edward Heath sacked Enoch Powell from the Shadow Cabinet in the 1960s.
Back then this was just an immigration problem – London was over 97% British in the 1961 census, there was no need for harsh measures – just saying no to immigration would have been enough, no need for anything drastic.
Instead Edward Heath signalled that the 1965 Race Relations Act, which did NOT repeal “Jim Crow” legislation in Britain – because there was not, and had never been, any Jim Crow legislation in Britain, would stay – that its attack on Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Association would continue. And that any measures concerning immigration would be half-hearted.
This is the same Tim Stanley who told the Tory Party conference that it would be “regressive and immoral to try to reverse” the importation of millions of the same violent backwards peasants who are burning and looting France.
France is demonstrating the end stage collapse of Socialism. Politicians buy votes by making unaffordable promises. Eventually the voters notice that the promises are not being delivered. But they aren’t bright enough to work out why that might be. So they demand even more unaffordable promises. Because they have been taught that Government will always kiss everything better… I think of it as Socialism’s Event Horizon. Once it forms, no hint of prosperity can possibly escape.
On the other hand, Marx’s predicted end stage collapse of capitalism continues not to happen.
I think this is interesting in the context.
@decnine
“On the other hand, Marx’s predicted end stage collapse of capitalism continues not to happen.”
But it has happened numerous times in the past. As we all know communism doesn’t work when applied to humans because it just leads to despotism (as does the path to communism which seeks to eradicate it’s opponents. Hmmm now why do the Left like so many people of a certain ilk I can’t think why:):)).
I would not be so confident that it will keep failing. The world is a lot more joined up than it used to be thanks to encroaching global governance.
Native populations are being replaced, community spirit is being fractured and a national sense of togetherness is under assault in ways that are previously unseen in history so where we go from here is not assured.
The funny thing being that fascism and communism/socialism are two sides of the same coin, but of course the Left have successfully argued in academia for years that they are actually directly opposite to each other. It is regurgitated in schools and this is the worry-our young are now being indoctrinated and this may be the last battle before we are lost.
Marius – yes he is, and note that supporting another party (the Social Democratic Party) at election time did not mean he was removed.
But immigration is no longer the core issue – most of these rioters are second or even third generation “New French” (in alliance with the far left). Now the core matter, in France and elsewhere (including Britain) is natural increase – births.
No country has tried harder to assimilate these populations than France has – the French government even refuses to collect religious or racial data “we are all French!” they say – and say passionately. Sadly the “New French” are not French – indeed they hate France and hate the West generally.
Assimilation in France has failed, just a multiculturalism in Britain, Canada and the United States (yes the United States as well – witness the Mayor of New York City) has failed.
Assimilation has failed, and multiculturalism has also failed.
The conclusion is obvious – but people in the United Kingdom can be sent to prison for spelling out the obvious conclusion.
Safer to lie – as President Macron does (endlessly) and pretend the riots were about “education funding” and “the cost of living” – lies echoed by the “mainstream media”.
tim – tyranny may win politically and culturally, but it will always fail economically.
“You will own nothing – and you will be happy” (a slogan of the evil, utterly evil, World Economic Forum and United Nations) always leads, in the end, to total collapse.
Although that will not be a comfort to us – as we will already be dead at the time.
When I was a student if we rioted like this we’d be immediately chucked out of our chushy university course and be forced to earn a living.
@Paul Marks
Yes very true but the problem is the decades of misery, wasted drone like lives combined with widespread torture, suffering and the deaths of millions before this happens all over again. I’d rather avoid all that, dead or not as I quite like humnas.
tim – I agree with you, but I see no way to avoid it.
Certainly not in Britain – Tim Stanley (as contemptable as he may be in some ways) has a point, the philosophy here is fatal – whether it is demands for endless government spending, or throwing litter everywhere (these are different aspects of the same thing – think of the mentality that drops litter rather than putting it in a bin a few feet away, that is the same mentality that will demand endless government spending and regulations, and will demand the punishment of people for disagreeing with them).
In the United States, Congress will soon fall – and fall to really dreadful people, people consumed with a philosophy that is evil (yes – evil).
As for the ethnic conflict that Tim Stanley denies – in spite of the all the evidence in front of his nose, well that is why the word “contemptable” is correct for some (some) aspects of his position.
But, sadly, it is not just him – Jacob Rees-Mogg, a highly intelligent and learned man, has come out with the same denials.
There is no ethnic conflict in England says Jacob Rees-Mogg, we are all English (according to his words), and the riots in France (and Italy and Belgium) are just another uprising, like 1848 or 1968 – no ethnic conflict.
The denials are dishonest – blatantly so.
As for the left – this is what they have long wanted.
Jean-Paul Sartre and many other leftist “intellectuals” in the 1960s said openly that they wanted Third Worlders to come to Western nations in order to undermine Western societies.
Things have not “gone wrong” – what is starting to happen is what was always intended to happen.
The left calculated that the right were moral cowards – would not defend their nations (for fear of being called “racists”).
And the left were correct in their calculation.
Just wondering, but which side do you think the British government, military, and police will be on when the equivalent of the French riots come to Britain. I agree that we in the States are at risk too, but we have means of defense [and offense] and more of a will to use them. I seem to remember someone saying at Lexington something to the effect of “If they mean to have a war, let it start here.”. Followed by events at Meriam’s Corner going all the way back to Boston.
Subotai Bahadur
It is easy and tempting to blame the “foreigners”, i.e. the immigrants. Then, if you point out that the rioters are born and educated in the country you say, oh, but their parents were immigrants.
That is not true. Most rioters are genuine local youth. It is the leftist education all get which says: you are entitled to A, B, C and when you don’t get it, use violence to extract your “rights” from those evil monsters in power.
It is Marxism, it is what they teach everyone in the schools and universities. It is not a problem of immigrants. Kids from rich, local families are the leaders of the extreme and radical left.
Besides, it’s the fundamental problem of Democracy. Unearned state “benefits” always ratchet up. You can never wind them down because you then lose your re-election.