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Why Nigel Farage wants Corbyn4Leader The Nigel has said he would welcome a win by Jeremy Corbyn in the Labour Party leadership contest, because it would mean anti-EU forces within Labour would come to the front.
This may be true, but frankly I think it is not the main reason Farage truly wants to see Corbyn win: a far-left Labour Party makes it vastly more likely that within a few short years, the primary party of opposition facing the Tories will be… UKIP.
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I hope so: that is the only possible positive outcome of placing the sympathiser of authoritarian thugs in the political spotlight. I worry that his extremist fan base will keep him there. “Hate speech”legislation and PC censorship make it very difficult to be honest about his vile and violent bedfellows. Come election time the electorate will be so sick of pish Dave, he will harvest the anti-Dave backlash.
Pish-posh
I don’t know. You’ve still got a lot of people who sympathize with Old Labour, don’t you?
And the BBC will shill for Corbyn until 2020. And even if Labour does implode, the BBC will treat the Greens as the legitimate opposition.
No, not really. They’d vote for another Tony Blair, but not this arsewipe and certainly not the Greens. I have to agree, the main beneficiary will be the Kippers.
Corbyn’s election as Labour leader will see the rise of BNP and UKIP.
An interesting point. I suspect something different may happen: people who loath the Tories but do not want a return to the catastrophic 1970’s will move from Labour to UKIP, whereas the rabid protectionists and true totalitarian thugs will abandon the BNP and move to Corbynite Labour. After all, Nick Griffin has stated he is now a Corbyn supporter 😉
It was necessary to destroy the village in order to save it.
According to the theory of “identity politics” the next general election will be decided by one crucial “issue” – does Corbyn represent the values of hard-working Middle England?
Blair managed to maintain that pretence for years but Corbyn lives in a bubble and he’s not mastered the art of being one thing while pretending to be another.
Corbyn’s supporters speak of his integrity but integrity means loyalty to rational values not dedication to discredited Labour dogma.
Give Corbyn enough rope and he will hang himself and his entire party.
I agree entirely JohnW
Corbyn’s obsessive hostility towards Israel won’t appeal to mainstream voters and his sympathy for Hamas and Hezbollah will positively repel them. Both positions will get an enthusiastic response from Islamists and their supporters. With the party’s support collapsing elsewhere, the Labour leadership would be tempted to focus all its efforts on the one group that seemed to be responding positively. Even if the support was only coming from a small number of activists and self-appointed “community leaders” the party would soon be desperate enough to grab anything that might keep it afloat.
The left would love it. They would see it as a revolt of the oppressed and marginalised against racism and imperialism. Labour would suddenly become a leftist-Islamist alliance promoting hostility to Britain and the rejection of British identity. But it would be doing so with all the authority and resources of the official opposition. A few years of that and in some parts of the country the 2020 general election could become a vicious clash of rival communities reminiscent of Belfast in the 1970s. The question is not whether Labour will crash and burn but how much damage it will do in the process.
I think Mr Corbyn has little idea of what is necessary to lead a viable political party. Before he could rant on the fringes and ride on the backs of sane Labour supporters. Now he has to set the tone and try to reconcile the differing wings of a party already struggling to establish who it actually represents. He will find this is not easy, lacking as he does the savvy of a Blair, so I expect a divided opposition that as others have suggest may give rise to new party composed of disillusioned Conservatives and traditional Labour supporters. Perhaps this time this new party may come to be the salvation of a country not that eager to surrender its soul to what suits those who have benefited the most from recent policies.
Surely the Labour Party will follow the Indian Congress Party’s example. Although instead of a simple Congress(I) on the ballot paper, you’ll get a Labour(WGUMFSATPRWPAATBGF4YOYS*) and a Labour (WDWTDTCSIUACBFMV4U**)
*We Give U More Free Stuff And The Parasitic Rich Will Pay After All They’ve Been Getting Fat 4 Years Off Your Sweat
** We Don’t Want To Destroy The Country So If U Aren’t Completely Bloody Fucking Mad Vote 4 Us
We must not underestimate the number of people who agree with Mr Corbyn and the collectivist cause.
True these evil (for they are evil) people are not the majority of the public – but…..
In a time of economic crises (when the international Credit Bubble economy finally crashes) their time may come.
“It is the fault of the banksters, the capitalists, the Zionists!”.
“See the millions of people in this country who are going hungry – while the Rothschilds live in the lap of luxury!”
“Join us in our campaign for Social Justice!”
People who say “it-could-not happen-here” have the evil fact of Mr Corbyn sitting in front of them.
As for the “decent people in the Labour party”.
They have just been shown to be the MINORITY.
And let use see how many of them resign now.
Not many will – that is my guess.
The leader of the Labour Party is a intimate of Islamist and Marxist terrorist groups.
He is an enemy of the West and he is an enemy of this country – being allied to the IRA and so on.
Well “decent Labour Party people” – how many of you are going to resign?
I remember when Nancy Pelosi was elevated to the top spot in the Democrat caucus of the US House of Representatives, and I recall being confident that now America was finally going to be confronted by the utterly leftist drivel she so regularly spouts, and how it would lead to their collective downfall. Not.
The BBC have begun conducting a campaign that the sheeple aren’t getting enough sleep and the sheeple should sleep to 10 o’clock.
This is all well and good to discuss this.
However, if a half million mostly male Muslim refugees are settled in Britain over the next 6 months, it may make all of this moot. It’s a good idea to keep your powder dry, if you were allowed to have any. See Rotherham.
Paul Marks,
It’s reported that seven of the inner Caucus have pulled the pin.
One thing to note is that should Mr Corbyn actually become PM he’ll probably be the oldest to ever hold that office (as age at start of term), his only saving grace would be if he did go completely gaga before then, no-one is likely to notice much.
Just another left wing felcher who speaks in platitudes.
About the only good result of Jeremy Corbyn becoming leader is that when someone tells me they’ll be voting Labour next time, I’ll be able to say: “Stopped taking your meds again?” Or: ” Been listening to the little green men who live in your radiators, have you?”
The Germans mostly thought Hitler was clownish at first..
“Kippers”?
Is that really how you folks refer to UKIP members? I thought kippers were what you guys eat for breakfast. It certainly doesn’t sound like a nickname they would appreciate (although the opportunities for political cartoonists would be limitless).
The 1970s were nearly 50 years ago. Most don’t remember it. We’re (by which I mean you’re) likely to have to go through it all again.
Regional, just when I thought I was done with the BBC, they go and do something I can get behind 😉
I missed that BBC report- must have been sleeping in. Trend-setting again…
I must confess that the thoughts that Paul Marks posted at 7.22 p.m on the 12th have also occurred to me. Ditto Richard Thomas at 8.09 yesterday evening.
I like to think, and sincerely hope, that the result of Corbyn’s becoming Labour leader will be a repeat of the longest suicide note in history and the 1983 election. However, one should never underestimate the stupidity of voters.
The 1970s were nearly 50 years ago. Most don’t remember it.
Most, maybe, but a sizeable chunk of the electorate do, specifically the Foot opposition in the 1980s.
Hitler was insane but he was a genius compared to Corbyn.
One doctor once commented that he thought that Hitler suffered from Parkinson’s disease, which might have made him impatient, and thus he launched the war before Germany’s forces were really ready for it. What might the world be like now if Hitler had not been compelled to rush?