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The Prince of Wales has demanded a “Magna Carta for the Earth” in order to save the planet from global warming – thus calling into severe question the abilities of those hapless dons who were charged with teaching him history when he scraped into Cambridge back in the early Seventies.

Had those history professors done their job, Prince Charles would surely be aware that Magna Carta was – at least insofar as it matters to us most today – a charter which protected the rights of the many against the tyranny of unaccountable power. But the kind of sweeping, pan-global, UN-enforced climate treaty the Prince is proposing represents the precise opposite.

James Delingpole

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28 comments to Samizdata quote of the day

  • Paul Marks

    Yes – the Great Charter was about limiting government not making it totally unlimited (and global).

    Prince Charles appears to be “poorly advised”.

    RAB warned me that the noble Prince was “Poorly Advised” – he know the person who tried to teach the Prince a tiny bit of Welsh.

    Still LONG LIVE THE QUEEN!

    May the Queen live for ever.

  • Mr Ed

    Does Richard Cromwell have any heirs?

  • Prince Canute holding back the tide of Global Warming?

  • Regional

    The role of the Monarch in the Westminster style of government is to protect the people from politicians.
    Charley should read this

  • Mr Ed

    Canute knew that he could not control the tide, to show his obsequious courtiers that the power of the Crown, and hence the State, was limited. In his honour, I have a penny from Canute’s reign, from the Stamford Mint. I even took that penny back to Stamford for a nostalgic visit, as it were.

  • It would be too easy to ascribe this nonsense to royal inbreeding but the fact is that the Terrestrial biosphere is a dynamic environment within a dynamic universe. Climate change is natural and normal. It happened in the past and will continue as a result of natural forces. Environmentalist dogma can is nothing more than an excuse to obtain and abuse political power.

  • Regional

    At the moment the Strayan Meeja cause de jour crowd are very concerned about the execution of nine Bogans who were who were apprehended transhipping heroin through Bali to Aatraya.
    Two points:
    The Indon President has intimated that 11,000 Indonesian people die from drug overdoses each and they’re not worried about a handful of white honkies, and
    When surviving perps from the Sari Club bombing were executed these cunts said nothing.
    The biggest threat to our freedom and prosperity are the Press who’re little than scum on the cesspool of left wing politics hold the stench of malfeasance in.
    Death is too good for these cunts.

  • Mr Ed

    Regional, here we see the Australia Left in a paroxysm over Prince Philip getting a knighthood from the Australian Commonwealth. It shows that they believe that the monarchy is real if they get upset about this.

    As for the Indonesians, well they are a country a lot bigger than Australia and no one has to smuggle drugs there, the likely punishment is fairly obvious, what’s the issue? Malaysia hanged a few Brits in the mid-1980s, my Malaysia pal said that them being British wasn’t going to help with the clemency pleas, he was right. Swim with sharks, you might be lunch. Most Australians probably think this is a Darwin award issue, but like our politicians, your lot probably think that what the media crowd think and say about them is what matters.

  • Fraser Orr

    The very essence of the monarchy is to be apolitical. This was evidenced with the big stink when a private conversation between the Queen and Cameron indicating her purring at the results of the Scottish referendum. The Queen has done everything she can to be apolitical, even on matters on which she apparently has strong views. This really is the very foundation of the modern monarchy. Even her stating that she hopes the Scottish people will think carefully about the referendum, surely good advice, was spun and analyzed to look for even a hint of political preference, much to her displeasure.

    Charles evidently does not share this view, he seems to feel entirely at liberty to comment on any political matter, and it seems to me that unless he changes at his ascension it will provoke a major political crisis. What next? Shall he appoint a government based on his own preference rather than the balance of power in the commons? Shall he choose ministers that align with him rather than relying on the advice of the prime minister?

    Of course if it meant getting rid of that old anachronistic nonsense, the monarchy, then perhaps Prince Charles will actually end up doing something useful, albeit accidentally.

  • Nicholas (Natural Genius) Gray

    I blame his name. If you’re called a right Charlie all your life, it’s got to hurt, or subliminally influence you in some way!

  • Regional

    Mister Ed,
    When they wheeled Barlow and Chambers carcasses away from the gallows on a gurney their bare feet were not covered by the sheets. White honkies have no special privileges. Death is too good for good for any cunt who deals in heroin but what do the Meeja do, get all wet between the knees over them as they were good lads really who loved their mothers or some such drivel.

  • Nicholas (Natural Genius) Gray

    The very first item on such a Charter should be- No cherry-picking of data! Does anyone else know anything about NASA being accused of ‘massaging’ the information on climate and weather? I just saw an Australian newspaper item.

  • Kevin B

    Nicholas, Steven Goddard is the go-to guy for who massages the temperature data and how. The BOM comes in for some stick there as well.

    He often gets accused of being over the top but he usually ends up being vindicated.

  • Rob

    The day Her Majesty passes on is the day I become a fervent republican (not the US variety).

  • I think you’re getting the prince all wrong. He said he wants a Magna Carta for the planet. I take this to mean that he wants to save the planet from tyranny. Not all the people on the planet, the planet itself.
    He wants to save it from you and me, and all our tyrannical “progress” and “industry” and whatever.

  • Andrew Duffin

    “getting rid of that old anachronistic nonsense, the monarchy…”

    Be careful what you wish for.

    There has to be some sort of head of state – the alternative is probably some dodgy ex-flatmate of Tony Blair’s.

    Long live Brenda!

  • I agree with Andrew Duffin completely and utterly.

    And I would add that, far from being an “old anachronistic nonsense”, having a largely powerless and largely non-political nominal head of state is VASTLY preferable to every other option.

    If you are going to have a post-Westphalian style nation-state at all (and frankly I would rather not, as I regard the Peace of Westphalia as the biggest mistake in human history, bar none), I much prefer to have someone who is essentially a human flag, rather than a politically appointed shit, to inspire us cannon fodder to stand fast when we get invaded by the Vikings/Turks/Russians/Martians or whoever the hell the bad guy du jour is.

  • RAB

    Not only did I know George Thomas MP (Viscount Tonypandy), who was a neighbour and friend of the family well, and who valiantly tried to teach him enough Welsh to stumble through his Investiture as Prince of Wales in 1969, but I also have a friend who was at Gordonstoun with him, and he is generally known to be as thick as a brick.

    Chuckles Buggerlugs III, is very likely to be our last monarch, because not only is he a weapons grade idiot, he has a messianic complex. He really believes that he was born to save the Planet, and as such will not stop interfering in matters of State when/if he becomes King. Every Department of State already has a thick file of correspondence from him, written in green ink. Sooner or later he is going to really piss off some leftie politician, and the Monarchy will be abolished. Which, as Perry and Andrew Duffin note, would be a shame; better a head of State who is a ribbon cutter and handshaker in chief, than Chuckles, who is a throwback to the divine right of Kings.

  • Tedd

    It appears that HRH has confused the Magna Carta with the Charter of the Forest, issued around the same time by the same council — a relatively minor historical error, it seems to me. Tempest in a teapot.

  • Fraser Orr

    @Perry de Havilland (London)
    > And I would add that, far from being an “old anachronistic nonsense”, having a largely powerless and largely non-political nominal head of state is VASTLY preferable to every other option.

    But that rather begs the question, don’t you think, especially given the OP pointing out that the next Monarch is NOT apolitical. Let’s not confuse the person with the office. Elizabeth is undoubtedly a remarkable, admirable woman. She seems to be a person who is genuinely committed to public service even at personal cost. However, that is not by any means the norm in people or in Monarchs. Her father was a decent guy, but a bit of a buffoon. Her uncle hung out with Hitler and had he not bee such a dick about a chick would no doubt have tried to manipulate public policy. Her grandfather interfered in the policies of WWI. Her son, and heir apparent is an absolute dick, thick as a bag of rocks, and has almost no admirable qualities. Good god the guy wants to be reincarnated as a tampon. And this, he, is what you want to represent Britain, the personification of the State?

    The whole notion of an inherited position should be anathema to any egalitarian. The idea that this woman is called “your majesty”, if one thinks about what that means, is absolutely laughable. The obsequious deference based on family name rather than achievement should be offensive to anyone who believe that merit should be the basis for admiration.

  • PersonFromPorlock

    I suspect if you read Charles’s use of “Magna Carta” as a synecdoche for ‘charter’, you’ll approximate what he actually meant. You shouldn’t hold him to too exacting a verbal standard as he isn’t really speaking the King’s English yet, just the Prince’s.

    Anyway, my point for years has been that he’s stuck in one of the World’s lousiest ruts and ought to be allowed a certain amount of crankiness. If he could really do anything, I might think differently.

  • But that rather begs the question, don’t you think, especially given the OP pointing out that the next Monarch is NOT apolitical.

    Which is why I said non-political, not apolitical. I could not care less who Charles votes for personally, as long as his job is just ceremonial and non-political. Moreover, I am all for heaving the monarch out and replacing them with a better one if they are a dick (it is hardly like that has not happened before in English history).

    The whole notion of an inherited position should be anathema to any egalitarian.

    I am not an egalitarian in any way, shape or form.

  • pst314

    “Does Cromwell have any heirs?”

    I notice that the Prince of Wales’ name is Charles. 🙂

  • Mr Ed

    The obsequious deference based on family name

    Seriously? Like with Barbara Windsor?

  • Phil B

    To quote the inimitable Tony Hancock in Twelve Angry Men :

    “Does Magna Carta mean nothing to you? Did she die in vain? Brave Hungarian peasant girl who forced King John to sign the pledge at Runnymede and close the boozers at half past ten! Is all this to be forgotten?”

  • DocMartyn

    Foreign Firm Funding U.S. Green Groups Tied to State-Owned Russian Oil Company
    Executives at a Bermudan firm funneling money to U.S. environmentalists run investment funds with Russian tycoons

    http://freebeacon.com/issues/foreign-firm-funding-u-s-green-groups-tied-to-state-owned-russian-oil-company/

    Hans-Joerg Rudloff, the chairman of Marcuard, a UK company named in the report, is a former director of Barclays Capital and a close associate of Suleiman Kerimov, who is a significant shareholder in Gazprom.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2012/07/20/business/barclays-kerimov-dos-santos/

  • Joseph S

    Surely there are a number of things Prince Charles could do. Starter for 10…become an international playboy and recycle some of his vast wealth.

    Anything as long as he stops pontificating on things he seems clueless about.

  • Slartibartfarst

    Well, we had the Pope from the RC church a short while back, espousing some kind of Holy alignment with the religio-political ideological dogma of that other church – the Church of Climate Change™. A useful, if not merely misinformed, idiot. Now we have Prince Charles doing much the same thing – another useful idiot.
    Not such an idiot is that Machiavelli chap in the White House, who is presumably only doing what he was voted in to do – i.e., steadfastly torpedoing the Constitution and the economy, reforming the whole shebang into The New Order, and using the EPA and other useful devices as the attack dogs. Deja vu – the sinking of the Titanic.
    Or maybe not? Who knows but that the US might not come out at the end of it all, vastly improved, reformed and a socialist dream come true and a member of the Caliphate. Allah is wise and all-knowing. 😉