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Thus always to tyrants? And what about would-be tyrants?

George Galloway thinks assassinating Tony Blair would be justified because of the war in Iraq… but if that is true, others might start thinking if Mr. George Galloway MP wants people to play that game, this notion should be more widely applied to all whose political views inevitably have violent consequences.

And so if politics did start to become more overtly and directly violent, with PM’s being bumped off because of their foreign policy decisions, this new paradym could well lead others who equally as intemperate as the Honourable Member for Bethnal Green and Bow to decide it was now acceptable (or ‘justified’ if you like) to start bumping off people who have demonstrated by their support for communist mass murderers like Fidel Castro as well as inciting violence against British troops by Ba’athist fascists and sundry Islamo-fascists in the past.

Just for reference, a definition of treason is:

The act of betraying; betrayal of a trust undertaken by or reposed in anyone; a breach of faith, treachery. High Treason or Treason Proper is the violation of a subject of his allegiance to his sovereign or to the state, levying war on the King’s dominions, adhering to the Queen’s enemies in her dominions, or aiding them in or out of the realm.

18 comments to Thus always to tyrants? And what about would-be tyrants?

  • Nick M

    Alas, Gorgeous George is on his hols with his second-best mate, Fidel. Unfortunately, his best mate is er… unavoidably detained in Baghdad.

    I wonder how people would feel if Galloway himself did the suicide bombing on Blair? Two birds with one stone and all that..

    BTW, Perry, that’s a pretty ropey graphic. Not up to the usual high standards of Samizdata. I’ve gotta a better one I did, earlier…

    With apologies to the great Aretha, altogether now…

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  • BTW, Perry, that’s a pretty ropey graphic.

    groan! 🙂

  • Mike Lorrey

    I’m surprised he’s not in Venezuela kissing Hugo’s boots.

  • Nick M

    Mike,
    Hugo’s probably having a love in with Fidel and George. Question is – who gets to be “lucky Pierre”?

    Yeah, I’m nauseated too. I just discovered that Galloway was talking to Piers Morgan in this GQ interview. I wanna retch. An interview between those two in a Gentleman’s Quarterly…

    If you’ve got any stomach left GG has statement on the Respect website.

    Please don’t feel tempted to nose around the rest of the site, you’ll only end up punching your monitor.

  • Enola Gay

    Gorgeous George is a demagogue and a bad one at that. What surprises me is that he gets so much airplay. He lost all credibility after appearing on Celebrity Idol and should be ignored for the marginal loon that he is. I know that we are all tired with these characters and the medieval world view they represent, but sometimes there is a price to pay for leading the world and on this occassion, it’s putting up with nobody losers whining every day about how bad it is for their lives/the world/ everyone with a gripe / etc.

    What is laughable is how seriously he is taken in the backward islamic world. These people will literally hang on to anyone to stop them from admitting about how primitive they are, and how much work they need to do to catch up – or be rendered irrelevant or at worst, extinct.

  • Nick M

    They would be irrelevant apart from three things:

    *Oil
    *Violence
    *They’re outbreeding us…

  • We should pity Gorgeous,he teally does pick them,Saddam will hang,Fidel is going to fall of the perch anytime soon and Hugo is a Central American who will probably get whacked in the next coup,too much money at stake.

    It won’t be long before the remaining members of the Tyrants Club will come to see Gorgeous as the Angel of Death.

  • veryretired

    OT, sort of.

    I saw a review today of a new film about Cuba at the time of Castro’s takeover called “The Lost City”. It is the recollection of a Cuban who came to the US as a child, fleeing the glories of the worker’s paradise.

    If the film’s portrayal of Che Guevara is as negative as the reviewer stated, I think I’ll buy it for my permanent collection.

  • guy herbert

    Nick M,


    *Oil
    *Violence
    *They’re outbreeding us…

    All of which ensure they stay irrelevant. Oil sustains primitive kleptocratic regimes, but they need somone to sell it to. Arbitrary violence doesn’t travel, and violent societies destroy their own cultural and economic capital. Fast growing populations are juvenile, ineducable – just taking up the slack in resources.

  • Julian Taylor

    I’m surprised he’s not in Venezuela kissing Hugo’s boots.

    I think that Mr Ken Livingstone is already a very protective kissing guardian of Mr Chavez’s boots and non-solar illuminated anatomical areas.

    Instead of charging this buffoon with incitement to commit murder we should just have every national newspaper carry this picture [link] of Galloway – laughter is always the best way of dealing with the poltroon or the tyrant.

  • Trofim

    Fast growing populations are juvenile, ineducable – just taking up the slack in resources.

    Fast growing populations like to export their overflow to the west. E.g Bangladesh.

  • Fast growing immigrant populations amid home populations that are contracepting themselves to extinction…grow up and become voting majorities.

    We’ll see a democratically elected Taliban style government and the adoption of sharia law in some european countries, perhaps France first.

    Reconquista in the USA.

  • Johnathan

    Some time ago I argued that there was a good case for kicking Galloway out of parliament. It seems to me that he has gone so far over the line that he cannot, in all conscience, be allowed to represent people in a democracy while at the same time calling for the leader of the government to be killed. I think the joke has gone on enough. Galloway should be expelled from the Commons. Shorn of parliamentary immunity, it will also be a lot easier for this waste of DNA to be dealt with for the various serious allegations of fraud and embezzlement that hang over his fat head.

    We can all take a joke, but this is beyond parody. Can’t MI5 get some serious dirt on this wanker?

  • Ace, at Ace of Spades HQ had a really useful observation:

    So, if I have this right, if someone doesn’t like a politician, and considers him a force for evil in the world, he’s wholly justified in killing that politician?

    I hope Galloway understands the implications of the rules of engagement he’s suggesting.

  • Mike Lorrey

    You know, despite my distaste for Galloway, H Beam Piper, one of the Golden Age greats, advocated just such a system in “A Planet for Texans”.

    He portrayed the planet New Texas, with elephant sized Supercows, that needed to be herded with armored tanks, and a republican government that maintained a method of constitutional enforcement of oaths of office that was a logical extension of the classical Texan defense for murder of “he needed killin'”.

    Thus, if a politician or other public official violates his oath of office to protect and defend the Constitution, anybody can shoot that politician with the pol’s unconstitutional acts as an affirmative defense against any murder charges that may ensue.

    So, on this basis, Gorgeous George’s proposal is logical, but only if you can prove to a jury that Blair has been violating the Constitution. Furthermore, even the tory royalist William Blackstone asserted that even the king, in acting outside his constitution, commits de facto abdication of his throne and treason against the monarchy (this was the legal basis of both Cromwell’s revolution and the Glorious Revolution). If the King can be found to be a traitor against his own throne by unconstitutional acts, surely the prime minister can also be found in similar conditions.

  • For another version of this idea, see this essay titled Assassination Politics.

  • Andrew X

    This reminds me of a point I have made of late to some of my argument foils (Stateside), who have, while maybe not specifically advocating the assassination of President Bush, danced all to close to that precipice, such as Manahattan literary types who have “speculated” or “fictionalized” or whatever, ad nauseum.

    The fact that they are utterly blind to the implications of what they speak of is as much proof as anything that BDS (Bush Derangement Syndrome) is not just a satiric invention of psychiatrist turned commentator Charles Krauthammer, but a real, living syndrome of utter insanity.

    What is it that are they blind to, as I will repeatedly remind them?

    “Are you forgetting, sir, that when Mr./Mrs. Kerry / Gore / Clinton / et al, assume the office, their opponents, and yours, will be people who have forgotten more about sniper rifles, scopes, explosives, and tactics… then YOU will ever learn in your lifetime?”

    Duh.

    BDS is real.

  • Mike Lorrey

    Quite. A friend of mine who is a regional arbitration rep for his postal workers union (despite all that, he’s a gun toting republican) was once confronted by union leadership (wise guys all) about his politics. They specifically said to him, “when all the guns get banned and taken away, we are still going to have ours, so long as you’re one of us, you’ve got nothing to worry about.”