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Irish ayes are smiling And British eyes are crying.
The Irish have voted ‘yes’ in the second referendum on endorsing the Nice Treaty.
Depressing, but predictable given the weight of the government support and the quantity of EU bribe money behind the ‘yes’ campaign.
I don’t suppose a ‘no’ vote would have scuppered the EU or even slowed it down in any material sense, but it would have dented their own sense of inevitability. Seems now that resistance is, indeed, futile.
The bad guys are winning.
Bugger.
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I didn’t get the result I wanted in the last General election, can I have another go please?
It’s extremely interesting how the democratically elected government of Ireland didn’t seem to care very much about the fact that their people were opposed to something. So they tried again, and this time got their vote out. Would they have tried again if they’d failed this time?
Asking your people over and over until the answer is yes is is pretty damn far from democracy. It shows a complete disregard for the actual opinion of the people of Ireland.
Wait a minute. This was basically about letting the East European candidates joining the EU. Without the treaty the EU wouldn’t have been capable to let them in.
Look at the bright side: Each addtional member makes a super-state less probable (not that anyone wants to have one anymore).
Does that help to dry the British tears?
No, the EU is not capable and they would be better off without the acquis communautaire.
Still, as some of the enlargement candidates are holding referenda, we might gain a few Norways, showing how countries can prosper without abasing themselves to Brussels.
Philip, it’s fine with me if all of them want to stay out. Telling them that they can’t join after waiting so long would be unacceptable, though.
Well, it’s still going to be a rocky road before the expansion talks are done. Pork,pork,pork and some more pork. In short. Going to be one helluva fight over the structural funds and CAP.
As for how to prosper like Norway outside EU. That’s easy. Have a small population. Add oil.
Ralf, harsh and unjust as this is, the EU has the right to decide who enters and who does not. It may be a disservice to those who suffered under communism for so many years and rightly sucks, but it is their choice.
Personally, I think they would be better in the EEA and out of the EU.
Teemu: Have country. Add liberty. ‘Nuff said
Maybe it’s time for the US to join with our old Cold War adversaries and defend capitalist Eastern Europe against encroaching Western Euroweenie socialism.
There are good things here.
People can now not say “we would not have gone into recession in 2003 if the treaty of Nice had been passed”.
Or “The E.U. would have worked if only it had been modernised in order with the plan worked out in the treaty of Nice”.
Or finally.
“Look it is possible to limit the power of the E.U. – the treaty of Nice has been blocked”.
The treaty of Nice has very little to do with enlargement (that is the “big lie” that was pushed both Ireland and in the British media).
The treaty of Nice is another power grab by the Euro Elite. It shows, yet again, that the E.U. unreformable and draws all power to itself.
Reform or limitation of the E.U. is simply not an option. The choice is simple – a person must either submit to an all powerfull E.U. or work to get their nation out of the E.U.
Paul Marks.