The police were in on it

Samizdata Illuminatus (Arkham, Massachusetts) · UK affairs

In case you didn’t think it could get any worse…

July 2nd, 2025 |

8 comments to The police were in on it

• John

  July 3, 2025 at 5:42 am

  If the CPS was to show one tenth of the enthusiasm for holding police officers accountable for their actions as it does for armed forces veterans from Northern Ireland then I for one would be astonished. Those floodgates are not going to be opened – any more that Pascal Robinson-Foster is going to get banged up for his hate speech which was viewed and heard by half a million people courtesy of Tim Davie.

  Comments by law enforcement within the last year such as “We’re definitely not going to arrest any of you so why don’t you just park your weapons in the Mosque” give zero cause for optimism that anything has chsnged.

• Roué le Jour

  July 3, 2025 at 8:42 am

  I am increasingly convinced that the left is nothing more than an inversion of the right. If the right is concerned about immigration, then there must be more of it. If the right is opposed to surgical mutilation of children, then it should continue. If the right is against men in frocks, let’s have them in schools. If the right is outraged by child rapists then cover it up and turn a bling eye. I’m not seeing any consistent ideology here, merely a galvanic response to those on the right.

• John

  July 3, 2025 at 9:48 am

  It’s not just the left though.

  The conservative party voted in lockstep to oppose Rachel’s admittedly too little too late welfare bill. Two cheeks of the same arse. The interests of the country take a poor second place to those of the party.

• Tim

  July 3, 2025 at 10:46 am

  @Roue le Jour
  That’s a very interesting point which like most things is largely true to a certain extent.
  However there is a key driver to the Left that everyone needs to understand.
  They are still revolutionaries, they are now just wearing suits and the modern language of management and supposed kindness that sounds anything but if you cross them.
  As revolutionaries it is incumbent on them to try to destroy society as it exists right now. There fore they will automatically choose a policy that is designed to do so but will disguise it so it looks like something else.

  Trans rights? It’s all about denying the reality that you see in front of you that you know to be true. This is a key prop to any authoritarian regime where clear failures or moral repugnancy of the actions of the regime can be spun into the opposite.
  Islamophobia. The same thing. A belief system that in every place it is in power rules with amazing brutality, whereby non believers do not exist any more, women and gay people (among many others) are persecuted and subjected to violence and control. Except this belief system is peaceful, and to question it is both racist and illegal. Deny reality.

  Immigration. The Left do not want national borders. They are now in charge of dismantling them via immigration.

  Sex changes in children/trans rights: there is no reality. There is no right or wrong. Also, Chinese revolutionaries sought to inject wedge issues into the populace in order to foster disagreement and resentment between older age groups who were tethered in reality and the younger and more pliable minds if teens/kids.

  And so on and so on. There is method to the madness. Thinking it is just because the Tories/anyone else are against it lacks the understanding of what the Left are really trying to achieve.

• SteveD

  July 3, 2025 at 1:04 pm

  Of course they were. I’ve suspected that from the beginning. Nothing is going to change under the current “democracy”

• Roué le Jour

  July 3, 2025 at 1:40 pm

  Tim,
  Thanks for your comment. I wouldn’t disagree with anything you have said. My point was, to what extent are these people actually “left”, in the sense of “seize the means of production” etc? To what extent do they resemble North Korea, Cuba, the USSR? It doesn’t look to me like they are trying to create a socialist utopia, it looks to me like they are simply trying to destroy western civilization, and of course succeeding.

• Philippe Hermkens

  July 3, 2025 at 1:58 pm

  They are indeed against western civilisation Not only against civilisation Socialism is the desire to destroy civilisation It is a desire for death Read Socialism by Igor Chafaveritch A very clever russian mathematician going mad

• Tim

  July 3, 2025 at 2:30 pm

  @Roue de Jour
  It depends on who you’re talking about. Those who are active in political circles-the Starmers/Rayners etc know exactly what they want in terms of seizing production etc (or gaining total power of which seizing the means of production is a key part).

  It’s very interesting that Starmer went to the Czech dictatorship as a politically active teen to ‘help build a war memorial.’ If Farage, as an active political teen had gone to an ethno fascist state with other politically active teens to do the same thing, with no records of what transpired then I’m sure people might make some connections. He then took key roles in the judiciary, became head of the CPS, was part of the sentencing council and has played a key role in destabilising society. All whilst claiming to be politically neutral!

  Let alone what Blair and his cohorts started, bypassing national laws and sovereignty using the ECHR and other EU/global mechanisms. Starting the Supreme Court that can rule over the elected HofC. Cramming the judiciary with like minded zealots.

  These people know what they’re doing all right.

  Then there’s people like Naz Shah/Lammy/Rayner etc who have an intrinsic of the West/white European culture and all that it entails. And they want to tear it apart. Are they to the Left? Kind of. But probably not like the key tactical players.

  I have to say that on reflection it’s true to say that many may just want to tear society down and that the Left simply shares the same desire and so they are allied in all policy. The Islamic partnership with the Left certainly seems to point towards this.

  Of course if you’re tearing society down then you have to replace it with something. Even those who don’t think about it too deeply will still be envisaging something that looks to us like a classic Left wing totalitarian state.
  Islamists of course want to set up a totalitarian state of their own.

  I would also warn against falling into the classic trap of the Left which is what I call academic pedantic semantics. It is how they argue everything. The Nazis were not left wing because they differed on some pedantic/semantic points so hey they must be right wing. Despite fascism being started by the Head of the Italian socialists etcetc.

  And in this case, the pedantic semantic thing is-are they aware? Do they know? Do they understand? To what level do they understand? Are they really on the Left?

  My answer would be-does it matter that much? If they tell you that they are then why think too much about it?

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