An Afghan migrant who was deemed an adult by UK authorities because he had a “protruding Adam’s apple”, bags under his eyes and skin that “did not appear youthful” has won £25,000 after a judge ruled he was a child.
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Be more scientific.
Cut him in half and count the rings.
Britain’s Asylum judges are the kafkaesque flagbearers of the push to demoralise the native population.
Bobby,
Are tou channelling me? I was going to say that and then found out you had!
Can’t you just measure the length of their beards?
It is not just the judges, although picking judges via a committee created by Prime Minister Blair is a terrible idea – and their “education” and “training” is horrible, it is also the laws themselves – a series of utterly terrible statutes passed over many years, indeed many decades.
In the United States there is bitter conflict among lawyers and judges – some conservative, some leftist.
In the United Kingdom both the legal establishment, and the laws themselves (remember there is no written Constitution here – and if there was, it would be awful) are a sort of hive-mind – it is very polite, very gentle seeming, and insane (yes – insane).
They will send you to prison for your opinions “your words require a custodial sentence” (said by judges who do not grasp that such a statement is barking mad), and they will declare an obviously adult man (with a beard) is a child, and that a rapist (or whatever) should stay in Britain – because he would not be liked if sent home (even if he goes back to Afghanistan, or where ever, on holiday).
When I use the word “insane” I mean it – the system itself is no longer rational, it is irrational, it is insane. Therefore it can not really be “reformed” – it is too far gone for that, it would twist any effort at reform into further madness.
The conclusion is obvious – so I do not need to type it.
Is the Islamic belief system of some judges and other such a problem? Well Islamic Law is a system that has operated for some 14 centuries, it can not be considered nonfunctional – societies governed by these legal principles function and have done for a very long time. It is not compatible with the principles of the Common Law (“do not say that Paul – you will be sent to prison!” – a person can be sent to prison in the modern United Kingdom, for saying just about anything, so it is pointless to worry about it) – but it is clearly a legal system that functions.
And it must be noted that the judge in this case, although a follower of Islam, was NOT following Islamic principles, if he had been he would have asked for a check to see if the man’s testicles had emerged – and, if they had, he would not have treated him as a child.
So this judgement is NOT about Islamic Law (although there may, or may NOT be, a matter of bias – with the judge favouring a fellow follower of Islam against an infidel nation which he has a religious-legal duty to oppose) – it seems very much in line with the general madness of the modern British legal system.
To end on a hopeful note – this is not universal in the Western world.
For example, Hungary does not have a leftist legal system – which is why the European Union, and the International Community generally, has such a deep hatred for Hungary.
The idea of the International Community is to create a system where elections do not matter – as even if the right win elections, officials (including judges) and “experts” will make sure that leftist policies continue to be followed – the United Kingdom is, sadly, a good example of this idea in practice.
I think I can see where the problem lies.
What does: ‘He was awarded £25,000 to cover his publicly-funded legal costs after winning his appeal’ mean? Is the money just shuffled from the state back to the state?
You’ll never guess:
“Upper Tribunal Judge Abid Mahmood”
Marius and The pendant-general – I have already dealt with the matter of the religion of the judge.
Things may (perhaps) not be as simple as you suppose – please read my comment on the matter.
Paul, I don’t care whether the judge was following ‘Islamic principles’. Do you honestly think any of them give a shit? It is simple colonialism: import more Muslims, get more leverage. There is no point in getting tied up in what is ‘Islamic’ or not. Half of the stuff they insist on, like the niqab, has no basis in Islam. It is just a stick to beat their enemies ie us.
Marius – I think many followers of Islam are sincere, very sincere. By the way that does not make them less dangerous – quite the contrary.
There are also people from Muslim families who reject Islam – that is more than rejecting their family and “tribe” as it were (although that is quite a lot in-its-self) – if a Muslim rejects Islam they put themselves under sentence of death.
I suspect that if there is any hope in this world it will come from these brave, incredibly brave, men and women – the ex Muslims.
They give up everything, and risk their lives.