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Russian drones over Poland

Where does this end up?

4 comments to Russian drones over Poland

  • bobby b

    Seems early. Lots of false flag accusations out there. I can’t see what Putin would hope to achieve doing this – beyond a public FY to the West, which seems unlikely – but I can see a fake being useful to someone.

  • Subotai Bahadur

    I don’t know about “false flag” operations. From the admittedly incomplete information I have encountered; 17 or so attack [not recon] Russian drones swung into Polish airspace so that they could come at the Ukraine from an unexpected direction. 7 of them were shot down and the wrecks landed on Polish territory and have been recovered. It is theoretically possible that more were hit but did not crash in Poland. Since they have the wreckage, they have positive ID on the mark, model, and maker of the drones. And they are Russian. I tend to rule out a mistake, but your mileage may vary.

    The possibility of the FY you mentioned is definitely there, but so is it being a Russian test of the effectiveness of Polish defenses.

    Subotai Bahadur

  • bobby b

    ” . . . 17 or so attack [not recon] Russian drones swung into Polish airspace so that they could come at the Ukraine from an unexpected direction.”

    Lots of people want the public conclusion to be “Russia is attacking Poland!” It’s going to be read that way all over the US.

    The false-flag op idea attenuates that accusation.

    The “they tried to hit Ukraine through misdirection over Polish airspace” possibility likewise fails to support the “attack on Poland” idea. If true, a remarkably stupid idea, but still not a casus belli against Poland. (OK, maybe technically it is, but it’s still not a direct attack on Poland.)

    So many people want to declare WW3 in order to prod an anti-Putin response. I have no love for the guy, I just think we should figure this out first.

    We have been tricked into too many fights.

  • Lots of false flag accusations out there.

    Many of the drone seem to have intruded via Belarus, so hard to see how this could be a “false flag”

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