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Groups to watch in the ongoing fight against the Panopticon UK State

Might I suggest #Together and Big Brother Watch for coverage and campaign news.

9 comments to Groups to watch in the ongoing fight against the Panopticon UK State

  • Paul Marks

    Excellent suggestions Perry – worthy campaigns for liberty.

  • Jonathan Anglin

    Please tell me where is our Australian equivalent, we are currently being railroaded into a leftest hell buy our current “labour” government

  • Clovis Sangrail

    Both are (at their best) very good and well worth the odd quid (as well as letter writing etc).

  • Patrick

    I see there is a Telegraph article today about the UK operating effectively a two tier blasphemy law – with zero prizes for guessing which is the protected religion. The state will monitor this to death and repress free speech to the extent it is able for fear of the whole ‘we are all the same, all cultures are equal, diversity is our only strength’ narrative openly unravelling. (Too late IMHO).

    But what if native Brits do have clear and profound misgivings about:
    1. The concept of Jihad
    2. Female genital mutilation
    3. Death for apostates
    4. Death for blasphemy
    5. Death for homosexuality
    6. The idea that Shariah law always must prevail and secular law is subordinate or irrelevant

    How is it that much of that is not already a hate crime? How do we discuss the true nature of Islam legally under the panopticon eyes of a hostile state?

  • Patrick

    … You can add the concept of Umma / Dhimmi to that list…

  • NickM

    Patrick,
    We can’t. It is that simple.

  • Paul Marks

    Jonathan Anglin – as you know, the ALP was just reelected in Australia (possibly thanks to the immigrant vote – but, as I am in Britain, I had better be careful what I say) – so most voters in Australia clearly do not care about Freedom of Speech (or any other basic liberty) as the ALP is committed to crushing all liberty.

    If all that matters is “the greatest happiness of the greatest number”, Jeremy Bentham, then who cares if a few thousand people (out of millions) are put in prison for their opinions. After all, as David Hume “proved”, humans are not beings anyway – we are not persons, we are just bundles of sensations – not free will agents – human beings. So our “freedom” matters no more than the “freedom” of water after a dam is blown up – as we are, supposedly, incapable of doing other than we do, incapable of moral choice (we, supposedly, have no moral agency).

    Anyone who suspects bitterness in the above paragraph – would be correct.

    Patrick and NickM.

    Yes indeed – we are not supposed to dissent, about Islam – or anything else (see above for why the establishment hold we have no right to dissent).

    There is presently a lot of huff and puff about “I.D. Cards” – but this is only a short term establishment move, the long term agenda is much more radical.

    Humans will have, when the technology is ready (it is NOT yet), certain interventions made into their (our) brains – in order to prevent “problematic” thoughts and attitudes, and to make sure that we behave “correctly”.

    If you are shocked by this – then read the second paragraph again. An establishment that has this view of what a “human” is (the view of Thomas Hobbes, David Hume, Jeremy Bentham – and so on) would have no moral problem at all in doing this.

  • Paul Marks

    Already in the United Kingdom, even with technology we have now (let alone the technology that is coming), the regime (the word “regime” is fully justified) arrests more people for what they say and write than any other regime in Europe – including the Russia of Mr Putin.

    Even in the tyranny of Mr Putin’s Russia insulting YOURSELF is not going to get you arrested – whereas here Katie Hopkins (for example) was arrested (and threatened by the police) for doing just that – Katie Hopkins said (in a private instagram group – “Katie’s Arms”) that her epilepsy made her a bit “spastic” – that was enough for arrest and threats from the police.

    People sometimes ask me why I am so “brave” in what I type on line – but no bravery is involved as, in Britain, just about ANYTHING you say or type could get you arrested and put in prison.

    So there is no point in “being careful” – none.

  • NickM

    Paul,
    I think we can safely forget about “mind-control” via tech from the government for the foreseeable future. I have some experience of UKGov IT and they couldn’t get a “happy ending” in a monkey whore-house if they borrowed Carmen Miranda’s hat*.

    Instead will be a creeping towards PRC-style social credits and similar.

    Though that shall be almost abysmally badly run (as well as being evil). I recently received a letter from the council telling me about subsidies (they didn’t exactly call them that) for getting solar panels as promoted by the government. I live in a Grade II listed building. The same council recently threatened me with jail if I put-up the “wrong” sort of replacement gutters so they would go spare if I fitted solar panels (I’m not even allowed a TV dish). Guttering that is vital to actually maintain this old house. Many properties in this “conservation area” (guess who decides that?) are going to wrack and ruin because people can’t afford to run them. It annoys me. A lot.

    *This is not to say attempts might be made which end-up as disasters – see the Post Office’s Horizon scheme.

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