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Samizdata quote of the day – Never ever trust the French Never ever trust the French and I am not saying this to be mean or edgy.
Many seem to have fallen for Macron and France’s theatrics and rhetoric in recent years.
France has always seen itself as a superpower and always will, and it wants to wield influence and play a dominant role in European and global affairs.
It is not going on endlessly about Ukraine and Europe out of a sense of charity or a desire to do the right thing, but rather because it wants to exploit recent developments in order to take the lead and exert greater influence.
France wants a stronger European security architecture precisely because it believes it can exert influence over it to serve its own interests.
Historically, France has always been reserved about its NATO membership and American dominance in the alliance because it wants to do things its own way and, ideally, maintain its influence.
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Never mind the frogs – England feels like a tinderbox even to a johnny foreigner like me. It’s ready to go pop!
First time in this country I felt hostility when I came back from my holiday last year and the immigration officer asked what’s your purpose in this country. I answered, well, I have a permanent residency. He said snarkily, yes you do.
That’s when I got it. These people, they are totally powerless, they get stabbed and thrown acid at them in the prisons, as policemen they are humiliated, as a prime minister Israel is not listening.
They take their frustration and utter powelessness to their own people.
Perhaps the execution of this may be debatable in it’s wisdom but I don’t see anything wrong with this impulse ‘to do things it’s own way’.
Martin
The problem is not France doing it it’s own way, it’s France wanting everyone else to do it France’s way.
W.T.F. once meant Why the fuss? Now it can mean ;Watch the French!’
“France wants a stronger European security architecture precisely because it believes it can exert influence over it to serve its own interests.
Historically, France has always been reserved about its NATO membership and American dominance in the alliance because it wants to do things its own way and, ideally, maintain its influence.”
So what you’re saying is that France, a sovereign state, places its own national interests first and foremost.
Gosh.
Macron may be a huge charlatan (I can’t stand him) but he’s still right that Europe should develop its own defence industries rather than merely rely on the USA.
The problem with the French is… They speak of European defence collaboration* but they always require that to be French-led. The Typhoon fighter is a case in point. The French wanted entire design leadership over that so it split and we got the Typhoon and the Rafale.
*A loaded word when it comes to the French…
The problem with the Americans is… They speak of defence collaboration but they always require that to be American-led… And the equipment all produced in the US.
If only the post were true – but sadly the French government, and establishment generally, could not give a damn about France – about the French nation, the French people.
They may pretend better than the British establishment do – as the hatred the British establishment has for the British nation, the British people, is obvious – blatant. But the patriotism of the French establishment is still FAKE – I repeat, they do not care about the French nation, the French people.
In end the French establishment is just the local branch of the international establishment and shares its evil (yes evil) agenda – much against the interests of the French people.
If only President Trump would offer NATO++, mutual defence&mutual free trade, choose a treaty; EU-led by the French&German or NATO++.
Also, the entire EU rearmament budget is painfully and obviously a corporate hand out to the failing EU industrialists, the current war is a drone war, if they were serious about preparing for the next war, the entire budget would go to drone warfare.
I’m never one to shy away from an opportunity to dis the French. To quote Humphrey Appleby, the purpose of Britain’s independent nuclear deterrent is not to protect us from the Russians but the French. They might be our allies now, but they have been our enemies for the past 800 years.😉
Nonetheless, joking aside, I’m not sure exactly why we would object to the French trying to advance the cause of France, assuming you think that involvement in international organizations does that. It seems very much to be the French equivalent of MAGA. Shall we say: Rendre à la France sa grandeur?
TBH I always thought it was rather smart of France to make sure they had deep control over the manufacture of their weapons whether aircraft, aircraft carriers, nuclear bombs and many other such things. I think much as the Germans tend to be prostrate to help out any European with vast gobs of money (as part of their post WWII application for re-entry into the human race), I think France has a bit of a “never again” attitude after their shameful performance in that same war. And their reluctance over NATO has many of the same roots as to why I have deep misgivings about that organization.
I certainly believe in peace through strength, however, there is a downside to that, namely that if you have a big Navy you want to use it.
I repeat – the French government, and establishment generally, do NOT care about France – they do not care about the French nation.
Nor is this recent…..
At the start of the 1970s the President of France was a man called Pompidou – he was a supporter of modern art and architecture, he wanted to replace traditional French culture (replace it with the “international style” which is not French – it is not anything), and he supported mass immigration – which (with natural increase – births) is replacing the French people.
This was all more than 50 years ago – there is no excuse (in 2025) for people still thinking that the French establishment give a damn about the French nation – not after more than 50 years of the French establishment undermining the French nation.
To be fair to the Islamic community, and to the non Islamic African migrants in France and other nations….
If Westerners choose not to have babies, or to kill their babies (first legalized in France in 1975, to a limited extent, now considered a “fundamental right” and massively encouraged and celebrated) it is NOT the fault of the Islamic community or of non Islamic African migrants.
The same is true in distant Korea and Japan (and Taiwan) – a “social revolution” (quite deliberately pushed by the international establishment) has led to a collapse in fertility – and opens the door to these nations being destroyed and replaced.
France 24 television today was saying how Japan “needs” mass immigration (i.e. the destruction of Japan) – leaving out the little “detail” that the collapse in fertility is a deliberate consequence of the social revolution pushed by the international establishment.
As yet the desire to destroy the nation of Japan is still private (the local branch of the international establishment do NOT proclaim it openly) – in nations such as Britain the private stage has passed, today the establishment openly teaches (in the education system and the media – including the entertainment media) that British history and culture are evil – i.e. that the nation should be destroyed.