Our diagnosis is that what really worries The Guardian here [about Argentina] is that this will all work. For where would the progressives be if classical liberalism were shown – once again – to work?
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Isn’t what Argentina is doing exactly what The Manchester Guardian set up to advocate in the 1820s?
The problem with classic liberalism is that it doesn’t provide enough jobs for the ‘elite’, and the gravy train only trundles along slowly.
Although when scrappy journalists, pundits, and academics spout increasing amounts of nonsense in pursuit of the gravy train their self interest is exposed.
Argentina is also one of only two nations getting out of the World Health Organisation (which has gradually turned from a medical aid organisation created in 1948, to part of the emerging world “governance” system) – the other being the United States, President Trump announced in January that the United States would leave the WTO (it takes a year to do so) – President Milei announced in February that Argentina would also be leaving the WTO.
In contrast – the traitors (the word “traitors” is not too strong – it is what they are) who make up the British government (officials and politicians) want the WTO, and other international Corporate State (“Stakeholder Capitalism” – i.e. Crony Capitalism) bodies to have even-more-power.
The ironic thing, as jgh correctly points out, is that the Guardian, as the Manchester Guardian, was founded to support the principles of liberty it now despises – the principles of President Milei.
The great weakness of Argentina is the usual one – money and banking. President Milei knows that – but it is hard to see what he can do about it.
To get rid of fiat currency would be a very sharp break – ditto getting rid of institutionally corrupt Credit Bubble banking (finance that is NOT from Real Savings – actual thrift).
Almost impossible to do – but (at the same time) absolutely necessary to do.
Argentina followed “Stakeholder Capitalism” long before the term was invented by Dr Klaus Schwab, founder of the World Economic Forum.
Argentina followed “Stakeholder Capitalism” when it was called Peronism – which President Peron copied from the Italy of Mussolini.
Yes – what the Guardian supports is FASCISM.
Fascism is a Progressive Collectivist system also admired by many of the “New Dealers” in the United States, they tried to introduce it under the name of the “National Industrial Recovery Act” and “National Recovery Administration” (the Blue Eagle thugs) in 1933 – it was struck down by the United Supreme Court, nine to zero, in 1935. The idea that government, business and union organisations should get together to decide prices, the nature of goods and services, wages and conditions of work (rather than all these things being decided by free individual competition to attract customers) is the central principle of Fascism.
Mussolini was the leading Marxist in Italy – and although later considered a heretic by Orthodox Marxists, remained an admirer of Karl Marx to the end.
The idea that Marxism and Fascism are “opposites” is one of the biggest lies of Progressives – in reality Marxism and Fascism are very much akin, and there is no contradiction when we see that many New Dealers admired both Fascist Italy and the Soviet Union.
The real cure – state-led green development.
You look for that one statement in writing that clearly defines the author.
This was the statement in this writing.
bobby b – yes indeed.
Such “Greens” as the writer of the article are watermelons – green on the outside, red on the inside.
The real agenda, as the Guardian reminds us, has nothing to do with “saving the environment” – that is just cover for the real agenda, which remains the Collectivist one of power and control – of tyranny. “Social Justice” (plundering), and “equity” (savage persecution and subjugation).
The objective of the Guardian, indeed of the international establishment generally, is a boot stamping down on the face – for ever.
Tyranny is not a means to an end (a sad, but necessary, means to “save the planet” or whatever) – tyranny is the objective, in-its-self.
Paul, I think you misquoted- shouldn’t it be ‘a boot stamping down on the human face- forever.’ This is how the Party in 1984 thinks human history will work out, with the party applying the boot.
Milei cannot fail. Argentine was governed in such a disastrous way, the whole of this and the last two centuries, that it is absolutely impossible for Milei to do worse.
Argentina was one of the richest countries in the world … “only” about a century ago. Then came Peron.
Nicholas – yes indeed Sir.
Jacob and Snorri – yes indeed “Social Justice” and “Stakeholder Capitalism” with government-business-unions working together (Peronism – Fascism a Progressive doctrine) ruined Argentina. As it would have destroyed the United States – had not the Supreme Court not struck it down, 9 to 0, in 1935.
The Supreme Court often fails, indeed often makes things worse, but at least it got rid of the Fascist “National Recovery Administration” (the Blue Eagle thugs – with their “fair” wages, prices, quality of goods and services) of Franklin Roosevelt.
If only its 5-4 decision to allow the thief Franklin Roosevelt to steal all monetary gold and to violate all contracts, public and private, had gone the other way.
The “Social Justice” or “Equity” justifications for the stealing and contract breaking by “FDR” were really a cover for saving institutionally corrupt Credit Bubble banks and other Corporate interests.
Fascism, in and of itself, is merely just another form of socio-economic organisation. One that may actually work (depending on conditions blah blah, the usual caveats)
Two problems: 1. What’s the end goal? 2. Is it scalable?
Take it from somebody living in a fascist island state – it’s nowhere as bad as people say it is.