Comments on A critical misunderstanding

Each entity should be responsible for its own contingency.

Buncefield - aptly named - is an example of when an entity is NOT - i.e. they had little to zero resources for dealing with a fire at their plant, but sprawled, boneless, waiting for the local Fire Brigade to pitch up.

If the RUSI want to do good, it is just to raise awareness in entities of their own personal responsibility for any response. Who else would know better about each facility than the operatators themselves? If they are unclear, they should contact others in similar circumstances to share wisdom and form alliances as and when both see fit. The point is they are responsible, but it does not mean that each has to provide every aspect of implementation in isolation.

The Government can and I believe should play a part in raising awareness. When they get actively involved in a nannying, "Oh! give it here!", dinnerlady-cutting-up-food sort of way then we see the abdication that occured at Buncefield.


Posted by TimC at January 4, 2007 08:01 AM

An excellent posting all round from Guy. I particularly liked:

The more disorder, uneveness, and complexity our society has, the richer our lives, and the better equipped we are collectively to meet disaster by routing around damage.

A couple of supportive comments.

(i) Disaster planning is largely about avoiding a single point of failure actually being critical. If overdone, central control of the plan, itself, can introduce a single point of failure.

(ii) The Internet is a good example of a robust system. There is no central plan, just a fair bit of redundancy.

In fact planned redundancy is the key to robustness. Its lack is one of the reasons why the NHS is falling apart.

Anyone can sqeeze more short-term efficiency out of a system with protective redundancy. Only real managers, steeped in their field of operation, know how to balance that against longer-term needs.

Best regards


Posted by Nigel Sedgwick at January 4, 2007 08:50 AM

Great post! Have you have read "An Army of Davids" by Glenn Reynolds or read a precis of his book on the web? It makes broadly the same point that human societies, precisely because they are "messy", are often far more flexible in the face of problems than centrally-planned ones.

And of course Hayek et al made these points decades ago. Come to that, Edmund Burke did so 200 years+, if one thinks about parts of his critique of the French physiocrats.


Posted by Johnathan Pearce at January 4, 2007 09:49 AM

I take it you weren't invited to speak at this conference Guy? Now that would be something to see.


Posted by mandrill at January 4, 2007 10:20 AM

John Reid appears to be the main speaker. I'm fairly sure RUSI does not want a matter-antimatter annihilation in the middle of Whitehall (however good that might be as a general idea).


Posted by guy herbert at January 4, 2007 11:35 AM

Good post! RUSI are one of those organisations that make up potential crises so that they can hold conferences about them (capitalist exploitation of the market for PANIC!!!) but it probably wouldn't be a bad idea if you were to go and tell them. You might make some people more thoughtful, even if you don't make much impact on the views of those selling doom.

The connections in a natural web start off flexible, but there is such a thing as over-adaptation. When the environment is stable for a very long time, systems specialise to take maximum advantage from subtle economic/ecological niches, and lose their generalist adaptability. It happens most with island ecologies, where birds lose the ability to fly and the sense to run in the face of a complete absence of predators, and then fare very badly when the people and their pets arrive.

The thing that keeps a web adaptable is the constant noise of knocks and changing circumstances. You lose out on the advantages that specialisation gives you, which are considerable. But if you want the web to be strong against outside invaders and other disasters, the best thing to do is to get in its way. If someone does something clever, block it, so they'll have to find another way round. Make stupid regulations, and then change them, and then change them again, so people are experienced at setting up new ways of doing things. Shut main roads for roadworks at rush hour, so everyone who commutes knows every side-road and back road around every part of their journey. Screw every single system thoroughly until everybody spends half their day practicing the building of new networks and routines from scratch to bypass the snafu you just made.

That way, when the disaster happens, nobody will even notice it against the background roar of big government. Resilience against disaster only evolves in the face of disaster, so an intelligent planner would spend his time dreaming up ways to create some.

... I wonder if they've ever thought of that?


Posted by Pa Annoyed at January 4, 2007 12:51 PM

I've just been reading Dr R V Jones's 'Most Secret War', about his experiences in scientific intelligence during WW2.
Repeatedly he stresses the need for a small-scale flexible organisation to deal with the various stands of intelligence coming in, and a recurring theme is his resistance to having his own organisation "co-ordinated" and subsumed into the War Office monolith


Posted by Robert Hale at January 4, 2007 01:15 PM

I think it's true to state that optimisation of any system leads to a fragile design that is likely (when it fails) to fail catastrophically.


Posted by Freeman at January 4, 2007 06:25 PM

In an emergency, hang every civil servant in sight. This should reduce the system's load to an acceptable level, and will have no affect whatever on its performance.

Except, perhaps, for a transient shortage of rope.

In an outbreak of bird flu, we could confine this to merely hanging every vaccinated civil servant. The populace would then be protected much more efficiently.


Posted by Brian at January 4, 2007 08:23 PM

Tch. Now any civil servant will quite properly point out that this is an appallingly inefficient waste of rope, and didn't you know you can re-use the stuff. You need to get this thing organised and coordinated if you want to get anywhere...

Now, have you thought about what you're going to tie the rope to, where you're going to put the bodies (there are H&S issues to consider, you know), how you'll arrange transport to the gallows for several tens of thousands of public servants, and how you'll process the travel expense claims through the estates of the civil servants hanged in order to ensure all the books balance...

Now, let's set some targets for number of civil servants hanged per year, a couple of forms to fill out crossed checked against payroll records just to make sure we're getting them all, and put form 12948... 321... (b)... part C (or was it part B? No, C I think) in to requisition the appropriate amount of rope, gallows, cattle cars, additional "Arbeit Macht Frei" signs, a form 91325 requisition for extra copies of form 386 - travel expenses (deceased) - and all the H&S clearances into procurement branch, we'll have the whole thing done in a jiffy...

Oh yeah, and form 623 to report yet another instance of affect/effect confusion to the dept of statistics (Education (linguistics)) branch... ;-)


[rolls eyes heavenwards] Transient shortage of rope...


Posted by Pa Annoyed at January 5, 2007 12:26 AM

Pa Annoyed wrote:

That way, when the disaster happens, nobody will even notice it against the background roar of big government. Resilience against disaster only evolves in the face of disaster, so an intelligent planner would spend his time dreaming up ways to create some.
... I wonder if they've ever thought of that?

Two thoughts:

(i) If you keep your tongue in your cheek too long, you risk biting it;

(ii) Said policy perhaps protects against the internal problems, but not the external: in particular the long-term economic threat from Asian tigers. [Also, noting today's news, how big is the Latvian navy?]

Best regards


Posted by Nigel Sedgwick at January 5, 2007 07:36 PM

Aren't Asian tigers on the endangered species list?

If you don't laugh, you'll cry. And to take the point seriously, there is only any point in having a navy if you plan to use one, and there is only any way to fund it if there is public support for such use.

For whatever reason, there is now no public support for the actual use of our military, and greatly reduced public support for the military itself. Having tried to motivate more support with a war for which we are woefully and visibly ill-equipped, the utter failure to materialise of any significant demands for a greatly expanded military capability leaves them with no other option.

Appeasement is the latest fashion. Guns are un-hip, bombs are square, and warships are just sooo 1980s!

But this all emphasises exactly the point I was making. Thinking we need a large military is the thinking of centralised long-term planners, coming up with the sort of scenarios RUSI specialises in. Adaptable markets say we don't use them, so we don't need them. We live on an isolated historic island of peace, and we are about to lose the ability to fly. (Float. Whatever. You know what I mean.) Natural selection says the only way to keep it requires facing dangerous predators. We need those tigers.


Posted by Pa Annoyed at January 5, 2007 10:58 PM

People can get on without planners a lot better than planners can without people.


Posted by staghounds at January 10, 2007 06:21 PM
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