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I think you might be feeling less generous to Mr Islam when you go and listen to the interview with Robert Lucas. Lucas does not come across well, Islam is flailing and confused throughout (confronting Lucas with re-heated precis of others people's half understood ideas), and for some strange reason the interview is conducted in the corner of an outdoor balcony with construction noise - a setting that looks purposefully chosen to be not conducive to a sensible and thoughtful interview.


Posted by Emma at September 9, 2009 11:36 AM

C4 and Faisal Islam will never consult Reisman (Link)on economics of the credit crisis.


Posted by John W at September 9, 2009 03:10 PM

I had always assumed that reference to Chicago Boys, 'till now, referred to Austrian-type old school (Hayek, et.al.) economists.

The problem is the new batch of "Chicago Boys" who evoke more of the Al Capone school of economics.


Posted by Billll at September 9, 2009 03:57 PM

Billll - warning Paul Marks is about to go for some history of thought stuff (sounds of people screaming and fleeing before I can bore them to death).

There are at least three "Chicago Schools" in economics.

There is the old Chicago School (which peaked in the early 1930's) there is the Chicago School of Becker, Stigler and Friedman (really 1950's onwards) and there is the Rational Expectations people (Lucas and co).

All three schools actually have a lot in common - but there are differences.

As for the current crises - well people who would be called Chicago School are split. Some support the increase in credit money by the Federal Reserve and some do not. However, nearly all of the Chicago School people oppose the increase in government spending (which some of the Chicago School in the 1930's did not oppose - I can feel people's eyes shutting at this point, have no fear I am ending soon).

I am fond of saying that Austrian School people are united - we all oppose the increase in credit money by the Federal Reserve and the Bank of England (especially as it is going to buy both government debt and the debt of politicallly connected corporations) and we all oppose the increase in government spending.

However, (and this is where the history of thought comes back - although for the last time). I should say "those Austrian School people who look back via Ludwig Von Mises to Carl Menger and Bohm-Bawerk - I doubt that followers of Weiser and Meyer would oppose an increase in government spending (or any other form of statism). But we seem to have got rid of them somehow over the decaded (that they first supported the National Socialists and then the Soviets did not do much for the credibility of Meyer and co - although it is not a formal argument against their position in economics).

As for the interpretation of the writings of Mises on economics (I am ending, I really am) I tend to go along with the late Murry Rothbard - not because I like the man (I think he was a quite wrong on many political and historical questions), but because I believe he got the economics right.


Posted by Paul Marks at September 9, 2009 08:49 PM

Mr Islam.

From his letter he sound like a nice man.

No doubt his politics is of the left (he would not be working for C4 if they were not) and I doubt he understands any economics (that would rather change his politics and put him out of a job on C4 - so if he ever does come to understand economics I advise him to keep very quiet about it).

However, being a decent man is often more important than someone's politics or their knowledge of economics.

Ouch! Did I write the last paragraph? I must be ill.


Posted by Paul Marks at September 9, 2009 08:56 PM

Nice dialogue. At least there is someone in Media that makes an effort.


Posted by lucklucky at September 9, 2009 11:33 PM

JP,
You're gonna be famous! Good,


Posted by Nick M at September 10, 2009 09:34 AM

"However, being a decent man is often more important than someone's politics or their knowledge of economics.

Ouch! Did I write the last paragraph? I must be ill."

Posted by Paul Marks

Paul, Churchill would have agreed with you. If he truly is a decent main, then he may be capable of being reasoned out of his delusional sstate. The fact that he even took the effort to write, and did write in a reasonable manner gives some basis for hope.

But it will take more than a few dinner discussions, I suspect to get the seed of doubt planted in his brain...


Posted by Dyspeptic Curmudgeon at September 11, 2009 02:50 AM
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