Comments on The media and the British police state

"The mainstream media are always telling us how 'essential' they are for 'our democracy'."

But they are! Britain's political class use the msm to get into positions of political power - most obviously via elections. Democracy isn't anything to do with freedom, as you well know.


Posted by mike at July 11, 2009 05:46 PM

As I've often said of the American MSM: their version of 'speaking truth to power' is "Oh, thank you sir!"


Posted by PersonFromPorlock at July 11, 2009 09:11 PM

On the main theme of the post - the lack of editorial comment from the MSM (I haven't even seen any of them defending this conviction, let alone denouncing it on free speech grounds as they would a few years ago) - it further disturbs me that none of the articles on this pair that I found on a quick scan of Google News allowed reader comments.

What I mean is that usually a paper like the Daily Mail has comments open on most of its stories. Didn't seem to this time, though I admit I did not spend long looking.

Afraid of racist comments? But that's what they have moderators for. I begin to wonder if what they fear is non-racist comments.

By the by, it was a serious presentational error for the authorities to have a guy with an Asian name as the public face of this. I am glad to see the enemies of freedom make presentational errors, but not glad about the racism this whole business and that aspect of it in particular will stir up.


Posted by Natalie Solent at July 11, 2009 09:41 PM

I am not as familiar with this specific situation as many of you in Britain, but, as you surely know, it certainly is not limited in any way to your country.

Mark Steyn recently had a long, drawn out dispute with some Orwellian-named "Human Rights Commissions" in Canada because he dared to write some critical comments regarding Islam for a major magazine.

The various assaults and intimidations, including murders, that have occurred across Europe are also widely known, even if the media goes out of its way to soft-peddle what actually happened.

So, the question remains, "Why is this happening?".

Why has the media, awash in it's own mythology of heroic reporting and fearless investigations into highly sensitive subjects, celebrated in books and movies, and definitely in its own mind, developed this apparent queesiness when confronted with undisguised censorship?

There was a time in Europe, Britain, and North America when soceity was less developed, the state weaker, power more diffuse, the populations more stratified by class, or divided by language and culture.

In those days, and they were not so long ago, a major city like London or New York might have dozens of newspapers, in various languages, with multiple constituencies, espousing any number of viewpoints from the rational to the crackpot conspiritorial.

The loyalty of the staffs of many of those publications was to their niche readers, their neighborhood advertisers, a crusading editor, and not always to political parties, although there were those also, or other powerful elements who were indifferent, or even hostile, to the cares, concerns, thoughts, and emotions of the papers' everyday readers.

But, just as there used to be dozens of makes of autos, or brands of flour, or shirtmakers, the passage of time has whittled these numbers down to a select few. For various economic and political reasons, the media have become self-absorbed and self-referential, and even the additional venues of movies, newsreels, radio, and television have slowly been absorbed into the edifice that "big media" has become.

Even as they claim to be centrist and objective, mostly for political and regulatory reasons, they have absorbed, and been absorbed into, the great swirling world of ultra-national, and trans-national, intellectual and moral assumptions and paradigms.

Their loyalties have been transferred from their readers and addressing their concerns to satisfying a new master---their peers.

Those who give awards in the never ending self-congratulatory circle jerk of prizes and trophies.

Those who move from media to academia to government to corporate and back again, controlling access and opportunity, denying the poor fools who are out of step, rewarding those who are reliable and dependable, who won't ask the wrong questions, bring up inconvenient ideas, quibble over niceties like facts or ommissions.

Those who know that the story is supposed to spin this way, and never that way.

In a PC, multi-culti, authoritarian society, which is what I fear you have, and I fear we in the US are fast moving toward, loyalties only go up, not down.

Those who control the purse strings, the commissions, the regulators, the accesses that can be granted to the good, and pliable, and denied to the obdurate who can't or won't go along, decide what is and isn't news.

"Tune in tomorrow night and hear Mr Thonpson explain everything. Mr Thompson has the solution to all our problems. Don't forget to listen to Mr Thompson at 8 PM, on all channels."

As the book says, no man can serve two masters.


Posted by veryretired at July 12, 2009 02:31 AM

Where did this notion that Journalism is particularly noble or essential for an informed populace come from?

Isn't it kind of like knowing that the brain is the most important organ in your body, but then realizing who is telling you this?


Posted by Darryl at July 12, 2009 02:38 AM

Very retired: What you say is very true. I agree that the permissible scope for discussion has narrowed considerably and its limits aren't defined by the defined not by the attitudes of the public but by the media elite themselves.

At the same time the blogosphere has exposed the cracks in their mythical social consensus.

For better or for worse, it seems to me that the defeat of white racism as a major cultural force was accomplished by the erection of new taboos the establishment of a new orthodoxy and the whip of social, professional and political stigmatization rather than any outbreak of tolerance or broadmindedness on the part of the populace.

While its defeat was undoubtedly a good thing I believe that the profoundly illiberal manner in which it was accomplished was regrettable.
An essentially positive outcome was arrived at by thoroughly foul means and this has had to many negative repercussions down the road

Whatever you believe about race these days in the privacy of your own head is pretty irrelevant. Having the wrong opinions about these issues is professional and social suicide so broadly speaking people with a stake in society don't.

People higher up the socioeconomic pyramid aren't less racist than those lower down because of any greater enlightenment on their part. They are because they have far more to lose by refuting the orthodoxy.

The defeat of racism in this manner has given the current cultural establishment the idea hat such authoritarianism is a fundamentally legitimate means by which to stamp their political and moral assumptions upon the populace.

The elite's ideas about the evils of racism at least had the virtue of being essentially correct. Most of the other opinions they want to violently foist upon us are not.


Posted by Jay Thomas at July 12, 2009 03:47 AM

Reading veryretired's comment at July 12, 2009 02:31 AM (he's always helpful to my state of mind) I was struck by the thought that, following on from much of education, health, and (fairly recently) charity, the UK government has now nationalised discrimination.

Best regards


Posted by Nigel Sedgwick at July 12, 2009 09:24 AM

treated rather differently, yet again: ""'Kill soldiers' Muslim blogger is back in job as Treasury civil servant""

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1199099/Kill-soldiers-Muslim-blogger-job-Treasury-civil-servant.html


Posted by james at July 12, 2009 10:40 AM

Ah yes, Mr. Thompson, indeed.

"Ladies and gentlemen," said a voice(Link) that came from the radio receiver—a man's clear, calm, implacable voice, the kind of voice that had not been heard on the airwaves for years—"Mr. Thompson will not speak to you tonight. His time is up. I have taken it over. You were to hear a report on the world crisis. That is what you are going to hear."


Posted by John W at July 12, 2009 12:45 PM
Where did this notion that Journalism is particularly noble or essential for an informed populace come from?

Why, from journalists of course, silly!


Posted by Perry de Havilland at July 12, 2009 01:05 PM

Adil Khan. Good, solid, English name, that.


Posted by anonymous at July 12, 2009 01:42 PM


We can't really blame the likes of Khan. It's our own fault for enabling authoritarian and intolerant people like him to work for the state.

Some kind of vetting procedure should be used to weed out people with Mr Khan's personality from public service.


Posted by pete at July 12, 2009 04:29 PM

pete,

I trust that's a joke. The there is a certain authoritarian potential required to work in the public service (and more in some parts than others), while it is the public service so very often entails telling the public what to do.


Posted by guy herbert at July 12, 2009 07:01 PM
An essentially positive outcome was arrived at by thoroughly foul means and this has had to many negative repercussions down the road

You don't think that was unintentional, do you?


Posted by Ursus Maritimus at July 13, 2009 08:13 PM

My father knew people who were sent to the gas chambers - they included relatives.

However, I would stand for the right of any imoral person to say (or to print) that there were no gas chambers.

My father would also have been against people being put in prison for their opinions.

As for the leafleting of a Jewish house of worship - that was bad manners (to put it mildly). But even if there was a "no leaflets" sign, it is civil tresspass - no more.

This is the old idea that the law is about making people more moral (better people) - well even Aristotle may have supported this notion, but it is still just flat wrong.


Posted by Paul Marks at July 14, 2009 09:16 PM
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