Comments on A fine book about the important things in life

Hear, hear! I wish that Nick's book were known more widely. I was privileged to read it in manuscript (twice!) and wrote a brief review of it here: https://stpeter.im/index.php/2008/08/24/old-nicks-guide-to-happiness/


Posted by Peter at June 11, 2009 06:13 PM

I apologise in advance if this kicks off another of Samizdata's interminable Rand threads, but I would just like to speak up for those of us who have never finished Atlas Shrugged. Well, me, at any rate. It's not that the book is daunting. I've read longer books, I've read denser books. I've clubbed my way through all kinds of archaic language which is difficult to read fluently because no-one speaks that way any more. I gave up on Atlas Shrugged because, whilst Rand certainly had lost of interesting and meritorious ideas, the woman couldn't write fiction for toffee. Portentous, self-important, turgid and pompous, Atlas Shrugged is unreadable not because it's too challenging but because it's very badly written, which is a great shame, because the ideas she aimed to express with it are very powerful.


Posted by Novus at June 11, 2009 06:15 PM

"Portentous, self-important, turgid and pompous"

All true. I love the book anyway! To each his own.


Posted by Laird at June 11, 2009 06:37 PM

Back to the main issue: thanks, JP, for the reference to this book, which I hadn't heard of before. And thanks also, Peter, for the link to your review and especially to the author's excerpts. I look forward to reading the book.


Posted by Laird at June 11, 2009 06:47 PM

I love Atlas Shrugged. It's real and it tells a real story. Anyone who thinks they could get the points across that Rand conveys in AS should try writing as influential and honest a book using less "portentous, turgid, pompous and self-important" language. It hasn't been done in 52 years. By the way, her "self" is and was "important". And she was a very good writer. The only reason to dumb AS down would be to appease ignorant TV-addicted butterfly-brains who need to be spoon-fed conventional wisdom.


Posted by Robert Speirs at June 11, 2009 07:06 PM

Thank you, Novus. I guess her style just doesn't "work" on some people, for some reason.


Posted by lukas at June 11, 2009 10:47 PM

Ayn Rand's fiction "works" for me. I think it is good.


Posted by Paul Marks at June 12, 2009 08:15 AM

Robert Speirs, you are quite right about "self-important". Perhaps "self-regarding" would have been better. There is, after all, a difference between valuing the self and being a bit too impressed by it.

The difficulty of getting the points across in such a book was exactly my point. A work of fiction will inevitable be compromised as such if it is so comprehensively hijacked in order to set out a philosophy. If Ransd had written a 500 page book covering exactly the same intellectual ground I have no doubt it would have been superb. As a work of fiction the same arguments just come off as strident.


Posted by Novus at June 12, 2009 01:08 PM

"if you can convey ideas through the medium of fiction, with strong characters, a good plot and plenty of engaging detail, it can be far more effective..."

Truer words - several years ago I turned to writing historical novels about the 19th century American frontier; I had become gripped by the conviction that I had to do something to tell people who didn't know much history about what a grand and daring experiment a government by the people and for the people was. I wanted to tell people that our ancestors (real and metaphorical) were decent, courageous and idealistic people, and claim back our history from those who prefer to paint them as crude and bungling racists. So I wrote a tale about an early wagon-train party, and followed it up with a lengthy trilogy about the German settlements in Texas. Stories - even genre fiction stories - have a worth. And sadly, most people who learn any history at all learn it first through the medium of historical fiction.


Posted by Sgt. Mom at June 12, 2009 05:41 PM

Argggh! Just went to Amazon US. Not published in the USA. One used copy available for $52.50. Johnathan, do you know whether there are plans to publish in the US any time soon? If not, I'll order from the UK.


Posted by Brother J at June 12, 2009 06:25 PM

I live in Colorado and just ordered the book from Laissez Faire Books. It's $19.95 plus shipping. Unlike Amazon, this bookseller site did not indicate whether the book was in stock but I hope their e-mail confirmation will include a shipping date.


Posted by Tony Suruda at June 13, 2009 11:45 PM

Thanks Tony!. I'll look them up.


Posted by Brother J at June 14, 2009 06:04 PM

I, like other readers apparently, have never made it through Atlas Shrugged, finding it dry. But Nick Dyke's book is an excellent account of her ideas, taken to the proper anarchist conclusions.

I also enjoy libertarianism promoted by fiction, an avid reader of the works of L Neil Smith.


Posted by Richard Garner at June 15, 2009 05:12 PM

Tony S, I ordered the book and as it turns out, LFB is less than 10 minutes from where I live. How's that for a small world? The proprieter says he has a new shipment coming in this week.


Posted by Brother J at June 15, 2009 05:57 PM
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