Comments on The Google mapping of crime

Fascinating article. I tried something similar on a very small scale last month when I used Google Maps to track a vandal through a nearby suburb.

http://notsep.blogspot.com/2009/03/new-kid-in-town.html

I figured that if I could build up a picture of where he is striking, and then narrow it down to when he is striking, it might help to find out who he is. As far as I am concerned, he is trampling on the property rights of others, and deserves to be stamped on.

If you ask me, it shows a lot of promise. And yes, it's amazing where you can find the time to do things when you reduce your television intake.


Posted by notsep at April 22, 2009 03:37 AM

If you like that idea, checkout the crime maps at EveryBlock Chicago:

http://chicago.everyblock.com/crime/


Posted by VG at April 22, 2009 08:11 AM

Shirky now blogs here, btw.


Posted by Brad Taylor at April 22, 2009 09:24 AM

Not the same, since it isn't a publicly writable wiki, but this is still interesting and similar.


Posted by Anomenat at April 22, 2009 09:26 AM

The chaps in Fitzrovia did this a few years ago using Google Maps.

BTW, Fitzrovia is an area in London, Bloomsbury might be a more familiar term (though not quite the same thing).


Posted by Tim Carpenter at April 22, 2009 10:33 AM

I wonder if the boys in blue should set up a Bluetooth scheme in all of the heavily mapped areas?


Posted by Curly at April 22, 2009 10:38 AM

Here in Portland, the City's had that for years, with the slight difference that you have to report the crimes to the PD.

But that has the useful side effect of making it so that interested other parties can't manipulate the map (say to make an area look dangerous to depress property values...).

The contrary danger, of the State pretending crimes aren't occurring, hasn't been a problem here, though I can imagine it might in some jurisdictions.

Tradeoffs, what?


Posted by Sigivald at April 22, 2009 06:07 PM
The contrary danger, of the State pretending crimes aren't occurring, hasn't been a problem here, though I can imagine it might in some jurisdictions.

It's called "killing crime." Variations of that have occurred in other cities.

In Chicago, homicides are frequently classified as "unknown-cause death investigations." That's done to keep the murder rate artificially low. Then, Shortshanks the Stuttering Prick[1] can crow about how his city is safe at the end of the year. Then, a year or so later, the murders are finally actually classified as murders only by then nobody cares anymore. Since Chicago PD clears[2]

NYC experienced a related phenomenon in the 1990's, and especially during the Giuliani years: robberies[3] were actually listed in reports as "theft from the person" which is not a violent crime. Trick rolls[4] would be reported as "lost property" or a report would not be taken at all.

Philidelphia PD was ordered to pull these same tricks in the 1990's in order to make the 1994 Bill Ruger Memorial Scary-Looking Gun Ban look like a success.

Year-over-year comparisons were not helped by the introduction of mandatory-arrest statutes[5] in domestic violence cases. Cases that previously would have been kissed off, no paper, resulted in arrests and prosecutions, and apples-to-oranges comparisons.

Llamas? Any good gouge from your corner of the playground?

Because of the way crime is tracked in the UK, under so-called "ethical crime recording standards" no trustworthy numbers are available. There's just no way to predict what really happened based upon Home Orifice-mandated stats. Which makes it plausible that crime stats are tweaked for political purposes. I don't know if UK policing even can be rescued. Executing Jack Straw and Jacqui Smith for treason, followed by selling every chief inspector on up into slavery to wealthy homosexual Yemenis, might be a good start.

[1] sometimes known as Richard M. Daley

[2] Meaning a suspect is either actually arrested, or is identified with enough reliability[6] to make a legal arrest but prosecution is declined for one of a short list of reasons

[3] Considered a violent crime, defined as "taking something of value from another, by the actual or threatened use of physical force or violence"

[4] Someone patronizes a prostitute, and in the process has his wallet stolen. He may or may not be physically assaulted in the process.

[5] Not well understood by the public. These do not alter the standard of evidence required for an arrest. As always, it's probable cause. The change was, we used to be allowed to issue a court summons and call it a night, or even tell the parties to sleep in different rooms and no even do any paper on it. The only thing that's changed with mandatory-arrest was our discretion, from "limited" to "none."

[6] US standard for arrest applying here, which is different from that in the UK.


Posted by Sunfish at April 24, 2009 01:59 AM

The same Google maps API is being used for tracking swine flu - see my blog post


Posted by FrancisT at April 27, 2009 11:24 AM
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