Comments on Ideological overlap

I have this embarrassing problem in conversation that whenever I try to say "trough snouter", I always end up saying either "snuff trouter" or "trout sniffer".


Posted by Ian B at April 21, 2009 12:08 AM

There are no "parties". There is just one big political class, complete with a full set of emblems, trappings and rituals.


Posted by Thaddeus Tremayne at April 21, 2009 02:47 AM
I have this embarrassing problem in conversation that whenever I try to say "trough snouter", I always end up saying either "snuff trouter" or "trout sniffer".

Whatever, you're being far, far too polite 8-))


Posted by permanentexpat at April 21, 2009 02:58 AM

Why don't the taxpayers just stop paying taxes? That would solve the problem!


Posted by Nuke Gray! at April 21, 2009 04:13 AM

It is a major issue in most developed economies; in the US, here and elsewhere, public sector pension schemes are in deficit. By a savage irony, taxpayers, many of whom have seen their portfolios hammered by things such as Gordon Brown's own tax changes, are now paying for the inflation-proof pensions of what Ian B likes to call the "proggy" classes.

This is one of the big class divides that you won't read about in the Guardian or in the conventional analyses of class. But it is the division that is now the one that matters.


Posted by Johnathan at April 21, 2009 08:11 AM

"The scheme was already in disrepute because MEPs' contributions are taken automatically from their office expense allowance of €4,202 (£3,700) a month rather than their salary. MEPs are supposed to reimburse this account but there are no checks and it is accepted widely that many do not repay the money, potentially making the pension an entirely taxpayer-funded perk."

Even if the pension money is taken from their salary, it is STILL taxpayer funded! Who pays the salary, eh?


Posted by Tim Carpenter at April 21, 2009 09:52 AM

"Why do the taxpayers not stop paying taxes".

Because the government will send you to prison.

Contrary to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, taxes are not "voluntary" (they would not be taxes if they were voluntary).

Nor are they voluntary in Britain.

For example, I hate the B.B.C. - but I pay the television tax.

"Why do I do that".

Of course the point could be "if all the taxpayers got together.....".

But that sort of mass action (a tax strike) does not tend to work.

For example the biggest one I know of was in Chicago back in the early 1930's - it was defeated.

"Vote the bad guys out".

Even where that it is possible (unlike Chicago where the dead have been voting in the Democrats for the last 78 years), the "bad guys" tend to dominate all the big political parties.

For example, the people who voted Conservative in 1992 did not want a government that "spend more than Labour promised to spend" - but that is what they got.

And the people who voted to stop Gore in 2000 and Kerry in 2004 got Bush - a wild spending useless President.

Voting out the wild spending Republican Congress in 2006 meant voting in the far worse wild spending Democrat Congress.

And voting against the RINO John McCain - meant letting in Barack Obama.

The most extreme person ever to be President of the United States.

Not "another Carter" or "another Clinton" or "another Blair".

Barack Obama has been indoctrinated from his most early years in the most extreme forms of collectivism.

He is the end of the road.

So we turn to the petty corruption of politicians pension scams.

I can not really attack doing that - as the reality we face is so terrible that to face it squarely (at least to do so all the time) must lead to mental breakdown.


Posted by Paul Marks at April 21, 2009 10:47 AM
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