Comments on On the life and influence of Chris R. Tame

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Posted by Brian Micklethwait at April 8, 2009 12:53 PM

Thanks for posting this. I never knew Chris Tame, and have only heard of him through the writings of Sean Gabb, and most recently the Kevin Dowd lecture (and many thanks for linking to that). And now I know what he looked like.


Posted by Marc Sheffner at April 8, 2009 01:30 PM

Something that impressed me about Tame when I first met him back in the days of the Alternative Bookshop was that he seemed for want of a better word, cool, for a capitalist.

He wasn't a fogey. He was a bit West Coast. That is an aspect of the man that should not be forgotten.


Posted by Guido Fawkes at April 8, 2009 08:10 PM

Chris Tame had a reputation for being rude - but I allways found him to be very polite (and I am a difficult person to deal with). When he disagreed he said so - but he also explained why he disagreed. He did not flatter, but (in my experience) he did not insult either - what mattered to him was the case, not the person putting the case.

I also found that Chris Tame always had a large store of (accurate) information about any area of economics, politics, the history of thought, philosophy (and so on). And he could reason - he could understand things and help others understand them.

What could be better than that.


Posted by Paul Marks at April 8, 2009 10:25 PM

This is a talk I would really like to have attended Brian - but I will be busy taking car parking money instead.

Nasty - but it is reality.

And Chris respected reality.


Posted by Paul Marks at April 8, 2009 10:28 PM

Chris Tame was one of my life's dearest and closest friends. Like al friendships there was a 'balance-sheet' of assets and liabilities, gains and losses.

Both Chris and I became very close very quickly, We were both amazed at the overlaps in our respective knowledge bases, interest inventories and personal tastes and values.

I met Chris in 1978, after spending two years in the Kent countryside reading (inter alia) most of the titles in the Bibliography of Robert Nozick's influential "Anarchy, State and Utopia." Thank Heaven for Basic Incomes and Public Libraries,,,

Chris was more of an anarchist than I was (I was a Left-inclined Liberal Individualist, hard-core on Foreign Policy issues). Both of us were fans of Barry Goldwater,

When we were together, Chris and I would often start whistling or singing the same song -- quite uncanny! We both loved T.H.E. CAT; "Have Gun; Will Travel"; SF films and stories; Country music; an idealized America,,,

We were both "Americans in perpetual exile."

Without Chris, Britain would have had a doctrinal Libertarian Movement led by David Ramsay Steele.

When Steele and Co. tried to seize control of the LA and the Alternative Bookshop, financed via John Blundell and the Koch billionaires, Chris asked me for help. I knew what Steele was doing...

I had drifted away from the LA (I didn't much care for oligarchies or politicking or Brian Micklethwait - a mutual and visceral dislike...); and I was building a Computer Consultancy based in Canada - America made real!!! -- to which I intended to go in due course. America was fragmented and increasingly irreal -- the Dream was fine, but you couldm't actually find it anywhere...

I lost close friends and a great deal of money in the LA Wars. My heath was severely damaged (PTSD). Chris was worth fighting for, but a bit too worried about the "important" people he hoped would give him the IEA or a wel-funded Institute. We differed on this -- I didn't think that the real obstacle to a more libertarian society was a lack of money, but rather, a lack of high-quality libertarians.

Chris was far too ready to consider dodgy people to be "libertarians", whereas I thought of "libertarian" as an adjective...

Chris's nvolvement with the 'Toughies' of FCS was disastrous -- it was bound to fail, and it polluted the LA. I lost interest in a "libertarian movement" at that point.

Chris loved to hate "enemies", whereas I was increasingly Popperian, under the influence of Jeremy Shearmur. Whereas Chris was developing a disastrous affinity for Neo-Conservatism...

We argued all the time. He was always impatient, always seeking short-cuts to Power.

Above all, Chris reminded me of Boromir in "Lord of the Rings", an immensely infliuential libertarian work which I don't think he ever read. I hope he got to see the first of Peter Jackson's films.

I reluctantly 'blackballed' him from the Directorship of the Foresight Institute precisely because of his "Boromir" inclinations..

Our friendship broke over Robert Lefever and "Randianism." And the "Neo-Cons." And the fake "War on Terror." Lefever's pretentious negligence helped to end Chris's life -- a true Greek tragedy.

Aeschylus would have understood.

I was an Athenian at heart; Chris was a Spartan.

All of history is re-runs of Athens versus Sparta.

With the best of both cultures, Classical Greece went on to create Western Civilization, with all its faults the best Civilization the world has ever seen.

Chris and I were kinda like that...

Tony Hollick

Rainbow Bridge Foundation



Posted by Tony Hollick at April 9, 2009 11:06 AM

I only became involved in the Libertarian Alliance when Chris Tame was dying, so I don't have anything to offer as to his life. But the very fact of the organisation's existence is a profound memorial to him.

I'm of the generation that came to libertarianism from the FCS, like Paul Staines, so Chris's influence on me was somewhat less that on grizzled veterans like Brian!

Perhaps the only mark against Chris would be the Libertarian Alliance split in 1982. But all I know about that is that there was a split, being myself 14 back then! So corrections from those involved back then are welcome.

I doubt very much that libertarianism would be anywhere near as strong in the UK today as it is without Chris Tame, so this Easter I will raise a glass to his memory.


Posted by Edward King at April 9, 2009 03:57 PM
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