Comments on Germany to Gordon Brown: you are an idiot

The system will soon collapse into a black mass and people will understand why hitler came to power.


Posted by Fred Dawes at December 11, 2008 08:14 AM

Part of the mythologising that gave rise to Nazi Germany was the promotion of the idea that the runaway inflation had been caused not be money printing but by evil speculation and deliberate economic sabotage by foreigners, and Jews especially.


Posted by Ian B at December 11, 2008 09:23 AM

Its clear whats going to happen.

The ressession will bite and bite hard.

Government borrowing will send Inflation through the roof.

The Price of Gold will rise.

The Gold Cartel setup by the US and Europe (-Britian) will by Obama be disbanded to pay for his spending spree.

The true cost of Browns huge error in the manor sold UKs gold reserves will be revealed.

The Question is how do we profit from this?

There is a lot of activity currently on the LSE shorting UK government Bonds, but im wondering if there is a longer term look available.


Posted by criminal at December 11, 2008 09:27 AM
Anyway, this is bound to be seized upon by the Tories

Really? That assumes the collective brain cell of the Tory party is not focused on something else. And frankly the Stupid Party has no more idea of genuinely shrinking state expenditure than the Evil Party.


Posted by Perry de Havilland at December 11, 2008 11:09 AM

They're both the Evil Party.


Posted by Ian B at December 11, 2008 11:15 AM

Fred Dawes - I call Godwin!


Posted by Andrew Duffin at December 11, 2008 12:14 PM

Ian B - seconded. There's a close parallel between that and El Gordo's constant banging on about greedy bankers and the influence of US policy.

Let us hope that his attempts to deflect blame are unsuccessful.

Looking at the opinion polls, I am not all that optimistic, but of course that also reflects the totally pathetic performance of the so-called Opposition.


Posted by Andrew Duffin at December 11, 2008 12:18 PM

And who in whatever party will dare state that the vast bulk of the rise in unemployment should be in the state sector?


Posted by Gordon at December 11, 2008 12:27 PM

But, you stupid Krauts, Flash Gordon saved the World!

I third Ian B.

Gordon - precisely. skoolznhospitalz! Think of the children! We couldn't possibly sack our five-a-day co-ordinators or- God forbid - the scoial-workers - kids would get tortured to death in Haringey if we did that.

Think of the children! Yeah, think of them and then run-up a fucking surreally enormous debt for them to pay for ever and ever...


Posted by NickM at December 11, 2008 01:17 PM

When I was flicking through the news channels this morning, Sky were majoring on this and interviewing Osbourne so I guess the Tories have something to say.

I didn't listen since politician speak gives me heartburn as well as being bad for my blood pressure.

The story didn't feature on the BBC News 24 ticker at all since there was a suicide attack in Kirkuk and a car had crashed into a takeaway. Oh and Harry got accepted for helicopter pilot training.


Posted by Kevin B at December 11, 2008 02:03 PM

Mr.Perry said it all.


Posted by lucklucky at December 11, 2008 03:37 PM

Just one thing, this phrase by German Minister is silly:

"Are you really going to buy a DVD player because it now costs £39.10 instead of £39.90?"

It is the comulative lowering prices that make work. 10 products with less .8 puts 8.0 in our pockets.


Posted by lucklucky at December 11, 2008 03:59 PM

"It is the comulative lowering prices that make work. 10 products with less .8 puts 8.0 in our pockets."

No,haven't bought anything with VAT that wasn't essential or compulsory.Biggest item outside the utility bills is food,none of that is getting cheaper.
Sorry Crash Gordon is the worst Prime Minister since Jim Callahan,Labour is working its old magic once more.


Posted by Ron Brick at December 11, 2008 04:56 PM

Hmm. I wonder if there isn't more to this story than meets the eye.


Posted by James Halifax at December 11, 2008 09:14 PM

I must've been on this site too long, as I'm getting cynical. The Tories won't bring this up, they are just too dozy. Maybe on Redwoods blog, but you think Osborne will do it?

He probably doesn't even know where Germany is.


Posted by the last toryboy at December 11, 2008 09:55 PM

"No,haven't bought anything with VAT that wasn't essential or compulsory.Biggest item outside the utility bills is food,none of that is getting cheaper."

Since when you are the economy?
Even if the money is staying in companies that is money in economy.


Posted by lucklucky at December 11, 2008 11:16 PM

And today we had the leader of the opposition in Germany supporting the German government in criticising Brown - absolutely hilarious and it heaps shame on the profligate and irresponsible nature of everything Brown has said and done over recent months.

http://www.lettersfromatory.com


Posted by Letters From A Tory at December 12, 2008 10:21 AM

"Since when you are the economy?"

We are all the economy dear lady and the economy is fucked.
After Christmas,look around you at the devastation wrought by Gordon the Moron. Quick tip,the holiday industry will see its biggest down turn in early 2009.


Posted by Ron Brick at December 12, 2008 12:46 PM

Peer Steinbrick some Finance Minister. The correct price for the DVD player would be £39.05 after the VAT reduction!
What hope for the German budget
JKA
(Link)


Posted by JKA at December 12, 2008 02:37 PM
And today we had the leader of the opposition in Germany ...
Are you sure that was the leader of the opposition? I have read about statements from a Social Democrat and a Christian Democrat (Conservative). The Social Democrats and the 'Conservatives' are in a coalition government at the moment. The closest thing to an opposition Germany has is the Greens or the Communists.
Posted by rantingkraut at December 12, 2008 02:38 PM

Peer Steinbrick some Finance Minister. The correct price for the DVD player would be £39.05 after the VAT reduction!
What hope for the German budget
JKA
(Link)


Posted by JKA at December 12, 2008 02:39 PM

At first glance this looked like a debate between whether high (insanely high) government spending should be financed by taxation (the German position) or borrowing (the British position).

This debate left me indifferent. However, when one looks closer it is not just "tax cuts" (such as the tempory cut in Sales Tax in Britain) that the German ministers oppose - it also the RISE IN GOVERNMENT SPENDING.

Whilst German government spending is very high - British government spending is now even higher.

I agree with the above comments that this level of government spending can not be sustained.

The British economy is doomed - not to strong a way to put it.

As for Germany, it has its own problems.

Although it also has its own strengths.

For example, the resistance to "progressive" and egalitarian ideas in education in Bavaria is impressive. I am an opponent of government schooling - but if they have to be government schools, let them be like the ones in Bavaria.

Perhaps if I had gone to a Bavarian school (even one of the "lower" schools) I would be able to spell and have some idea what "grammar" is.

Also many Germans are taught how things work and how to make things.

All British youngsters are taught is how to be "public sector" administrators or media people.

The British are taught how to consume - not how to create.


Posted by Paul Marks at December 12, 2008 09:09 PM

On monetary (as opposed to fiscal) policy:

The Germans are locked into the Euro - which has followed a more expansionary policy that they would have wished.

However, American policy (endless bailouts - mostly financed by the Federal Reserve system) is surely worse than that followed by the Euro Central Bank (I say "surely", rather than quoting stats, because, as Ron Paul noted some years ago, the American government does not publish M3 expansion numbers).

As for British policy:

The Monetary policy of the Bank of England and the fiscal policy of the Treasury, are insane.


Posted by Paul Marks at December 12, 2008 09:13 PM

"Since when you are the economy?"

We are all the economy cherub.

"Even if the money is staying in companies that is money in economy."

But the whole idea was to get us spending again,not give companies a nice little windfall.

It could be argued that giving the money to the government is keeping it in the economy.Now those bozos really do know how to spend.


Posted by Ron Brick at December 13, 2008 01:09 AM

I say "surely", rather than quoting stats, because, as Ron Paul noted some years ago, the American government does not publish M3 expansion numbers.

You don't need to see M3 to be nervous. The M1 numbers are huge. Staggering. When US banks start lending against that base money we'll see dollar inflation like we've never seen.


Posted by Eric at December 13, 2008 01:47 AM

"But the whole idea was to get us spending again,not give companies a nice little windfall.

It could be argued that giving the money to the government is keeping it in the economy.Now those bozos really do know how to spend."

Oh get it, so do you prefer to have money in State than in companies and or people? I suppose you are one of those apparatchiks...


Posted by lucklucky at December 13, 2008 01:49 AM

Giving the banks the money to "lend" was indeed the point of the TARP bailout (and others) - and it is exactly what should NOT be done.

Demand economics (or "go shopping" economics) is bad enough - without the whole thing being based on credit bubble debt pyramids.

At least the ex head of NASDAQ (spelling alert) admits he is a crook (a fifty billion Dollar crook - quite small really). The fractional reserve bankers (and the government/Bank of Enland which pushes their activities) hide behind the formally "legal" nature of their antics.


Posted by Paul Marks at December 13, 2008 01:40 PM

Personally, I suspect the banks haven't been lending because they can't. They have so many worthless assets to write down they're already far below reserve requirements. The only thing that's allowed them put on a brave face is the suspension of mark-to-market requirements and the looser rules for L3 assets.


Posted by Eric at December 16, 2008 12:07 AM

So Gordon Brown, instead of leading some sort of vendetta against Fred Goodwin in which to hide your own failings, please start doing something to sort out your own mess and help the UK out of the depression which you created.

And, in this time of uncertainty, people are rightly asking politicians: what's your plan?


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