Forgive me if I'm not understanding the whole picture but where is the average Briton? I've read that Turkish shopkeepers have banded together to defend their stores and neighborhoods but I've yet to hear of the average Briton doing the same.

I know the government will say that it's not worth risking ones life to defend their property but when one sees ones home, neighborhood, and stores being destroyed by mobs of thugs it becomes a point of honor and self-respect to protect what is yours. Have we in the West truly fallen so low that we could stand by and not fight to protect our streets?

I hope that I've just not come across any stories of average Britons banding together to defend their homes and businesses because otherwise the Western man has become so dependent on the state to take care of him and his family that he is no longer fit to be free.

Apparently the "impoverished" classes are organising looting-sprees on their expensive communications technology ... yes, that's how much sense the media is making.

If the reason they were rioting was to protest their lack of access to education and opportunities, why didn't they loot the bookstores to benefit their impoverished intellects? Oh yeah, because that's just a flimsy pretext/rationalisation which they know will appeal to a particular kind of idiot in the media.

It's incredible how good the lesser classes are at fooling their "betters" in the media and government.

Chris, I think the average Brit fears that if they go outside with any kind of weapon to defend their property from a mob, then any policeman in the area will arrest them. Perhaps the Home Secretary or police could reassure that this would not happen?

Perhaps the Home Secretary or police could reassure that this would not happen?

Of course not because that is exactly what would happen.

Chris, many people are defending their homes and businesses. The media won't cover a lot of it because they don't or won't understand the concept of self defence. Now-a-days people won't call the police when they fight back because they will probably be arrested.

FYI, the sale of basebats at Amazon UK has rocketed. I didn't know so many knew the rules of the game. ;)

I have heard (from Glenn Beck and co) that there have been an increase in the tax on aluminium baseball bats in Britain, as part of Mr Cameron's (really Cas Susteen's) "Nudge" ideology - to discourage self defence.

I do not know whether the rumour is true or not, I have lived in Britain all my life - but it is very hard to find out what is going on here (everything is controlled by a small elite that crosses party lines - with the people having no say).

Americans think their own country is like that (with everything being controlled by a Harvard/Yale elite crossing party lines), but by British standards American politics is astonishingly open.