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May 21, 2010
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Samizdata Illuminatus (Arkham, Massachusetts)  How very odd! • Humour

As seen in a signature on a Star Wars: The Old Republic games forum:

[Luke:] I can’t believe it.

[Yoda:] That is why you fail.

[Ayn Rand:] Success does not come from believing in a steaming pile of mystic gibberish, you stupid little green man [ignites her lightsabre and advances threateningly]

- Act IV, The Fountainhead Strikes Back

Comments

Brilliant.

It was often said - by her critics - that Rand did not have much of a sense of humour. I dunno, I thought her satire on post-modernist literary twits in the Fountainhead was in the Monty Python league. Seriously.


Posted by Johnathan Pearce at May 21, 2010 02:30 PM

...low-hanging fruit, Johnathan, you must admit.


Posted by lukas at May 21, 2010 02:59 PM

Can someone please give me a quote so I can find it? Thanks


Posted by Hugo at May 21, 2010 05:20 PM

Hugo, it is just a humorous sig at the bottom of the posts posts by user 'e_tenebris_lux' on that games forum.


Posted by Perry de Havilland at May 21, 2010 05:32 PM

Yeah, somehow I can believe Ayn Rand murdering an octocentenarian for having the wrong philosophy...


Posted by Alsadius at May 21, 2010 05:34 PM

Yoda was always completely full of it.

It'd be amusing for Luke to have replied, to "Do or do not. There is no try." with "Well, I guess you DID NOT save the Republic, then. I'd say "good try", but you can't have tried, could you?"

Lucas should have avoided attempts at philosophy.

(And if being struck down makes a Jedi more powerful than anyone could possibly imagine, shouldn't all those dead Jedi from the Clone Wars have been able to stop the Emperor with a wave of their hands?)


Posted by Sigivald at May 21, 2010 06:12 PM

Oy.


Posted by Alisa at May 21, 2010 06:27 PM

I think that's a little unfair, Sigivald. What he meant was, you either succeed or you fail; you get no points for unsuccessful effort or good intentions. Which is a pretty good point to rub in the noses of leftists who always want to be judged by the (purported) nobility of their intentions rather than the dismal results they actually achieve. Incidentally, I'm sure Yoda would have readily admitted that, as to saving the Republic, he failed (or "did not").

Besides, it's a very useful line to use on my son (the Star Wars fan) when he says he'll "try" to do something I want him to do. I'm not giving him the ability to use "try" as a sly way of "not doing".

The "more powerful than you can possibly imagine" line is a little trickier, but I think what he was getting at was the effect his death would have in motivating Luke to achieve his full Jedi potential. Which, of course, is precisely what happened. In other words, Obiwan himself wasn't rendered more powerful by his death, but the resulting secondary effects ("unintended consequences", anyone?) would end in Vader's downfall. All in all, a fairly accurate prediction.

But of course, that's just my take on this.


Posted by Laird at May 21, 2010 07:32 PM

Shurely Yoda would have said: "Why fail that you is."


Posted by steveg at May 21, 2010 08:06 PM

you stupid little green man

RAAAAACIST


Posted by CountingCats at May 22, 2010 12:14 AM

Did I say 'oy'? I meant 'OMDGiH'.


Posted by Alisa at May 22, 2010 01:05 AM

Or should that be:

SPECIST!!!!

On another topic, never having been a Star Wars fan, I prefer science fiction to third rate fantasy, I don't understand the point of the lightsabre. In weapons poker wouldn't a Smith and Wesson trump a lightsabre any time?


Posted by CountingCats at May 22, 2010 01:40 AM

Slug-thrower + pressurized vehicle + interstellar space = double-plus ungood.


Posted by Bod at May 22, 2010 02:51 AM

Speaking of culture mashups, I worked the Bond vs. Blofeld opening sequence from For Your Eyes Only into my own blogged celebration of Arlen Specter's come-uppance.

Still feeling quite cheery about last Tuesday. Schadenfreude rocks!


Posted by Alan K. Henderson at May 22, 2010 05:24 AM

I meant the bit in The Fountainhead.


Posted by Hugo at May 22, 2010 08:02 AM

Cats: 'racist' sounds right, after all we do refer to ourselves as 'human race'.


Posted by Alisa at May 22, 2010 09:44 AM

May the Farce be with you -

http://www.daybydaycartoon.com/2010/05/15/


Posted by Chuckles at May 22, 2010 04:08 PM

Coincidentally (SFAIK), the American lefty magazine The Nation has a somewhat uncomplimentary piece on Rand, here.


Posted by The Sanity Inspector at May 22, 2010 06:08 PM

Hugo.

What you are looking for in the Fountainhead is where the leftist intellectuals get together to discuss the latest play of "Ike the genius".

And the point is that they are NOT twits - they all know the play is a piece of crap and that Ike is a moron.

However, (of course) they arrive at the position that they will all say that the play is wonderful (they will write reviews and so on) and then when Peter Keating turns up (who is not part of their inner circle) they go into their act.

This part of the book is hardly showing the leftists as twits - it is showing them as highly intelligent, but also deeply evil.


Posted by Paul Marks at May 24, 2010 05:27 PM
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