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December 29, 2007
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Slavery was in fact the very first form of "Renewable Energy". Slavery was green! And, what is even better, slavery was sustainable - it lasted for thousands of years, until the ability to use fossil fuels gave us the liberty to feel bad about it. Whenever someone waxes eloquent about "Renewable Energy", think slavery. Because that is where wishful thinking is taking us.

- Commenter Alice.

Comments

No it was not - animal power was.


Posted by R. Richard Schweitzer at December 29, 2007 04:39 PM

It is VERY improbable that animal domestication pre-dates forced labour.


Posted by Perry de Havilland at December 29, 2007 04:42 PM

Equating renewable energy with slavery is breathtaking stupidity.


Posted by Joshua Holmes at December 29, 2007 05:07 PM

Equating renewable energy with slavery is breathtaking stupidity.

Because...?


Posted by James at December 29, 2007 05:33 PM

Actually it is breathtakingly brilliant and very funny, you foolish toad. The luddite atavistic roots of the eco-statists are obvious and they can only get what they want by making us all slaves.


Posted by Alex Dobrovic at December 29, 2007 05:35 PM

Slavery? Isn't that a bit optimistic?


Posted by Brad at December 29, 2007 05:49 PM

Odd that slavery lingers on in some oil-rich countries.


Posted by dearieme at December 29, 2007 08:06 PM

To be sure: all muscle work is renewable energy, whether by animals, slaves or free laborers.
And yes, the "greens" want more muscle work and less burning of fuel.


Posted by Jacob at December 29, 2007 08:54 PM

Some "Greens" have a genuine concern about such things as the emission of C02 from the burning of oil and coal, and do NOT want to return us to, at best, slavery and, far more likely considering how many people industrial civilization supports, mass starvation.

James Lovelock, the father of the British environmentalist movement, suggested a way of telling people like himself (who do not support slavery and mass starvation) from "greens" who do wish to destroy industrial civilization.

Ask them whether they support nuclear power.

Sadly it turns out that most Greens are the bad sort of Green.


Posted by Paul Marks at December 29, 2007 10:55 PM

I've long wondered why the campaign to abolish slavery got into high gear in the mid-eighteenth century, i.e., around the same time the steam engine was invented, and were these two events related.


Posted by Robert Sealey at December 29, 2007 11:00 PM
and do NOT want to return us to, at best, slavery and, far more likely considering how many people industrial civilization supports, mass starvation.

Of course they do not want. They are dumb enough not to realize the inevitable consequences of the policies they promote.
They basically want what all socialists want: stasis, no growth, no new anything.
Mass starvation (or slavery) is not the immediate result of their policies, it's rather gradual impoverishment.


Posted by Jacob at December 29, 2007 11:05 PM

You may be prosecuted for failing to separate your rubbish into whatever categories are currently fashionable. In Hertfordshire you are supposed to wash-up the tins and bottles that are left for recycling.

While this doesn't constitute slavery, it's clearly a step in that direction.


Posted by Brian at December 30, 2007 11:59 AM
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