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December 15, 2007
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Intelligence is not wisdom, many intelligent people have been seduced by the false rationality of 'scientific' Marxism and many who are 'dumb' have, with simple clarity of thought, seen straight through it. It is not only the simple minded that need fear deception.

- James, commenting on Samizdata here.

Comments

Robert Reich is that kind of intellectual. Too clever by half.


Posted by Lee at December 15, 2007 05:59 PM

That's really quite profound.


Posted by Alison Kosciusko at December 15, 2007 06:17 PM
That's really quite profound.

Yeah, I agree...

I don't get why people are in awe when faced with some jerk with a university degree or job. Why people assume that a Marxist professor is intelligent. Being an "intellectual" (i.e. university type with humanities degree) doesn't prove that you're intelligent, rather, in my eyes, it makes you suspect of the opposite.


Posted by Jacob at December 15, 2007 07:48 PM

Not to disagree, but there are different kinds of intelligence. Also, intelligence does not operate in a vacuum: psychology is a big part of the decision making process, and it is not directly connected to intelligence. Very intelligent people often do very stupid things. Some times they are well aware that what they are doing is stupid, and do it nonetheless. Sometimes they use quite a bit of their intelligence to justify it to themselves and to others. The reasons behind both cases are psychological.

I don't get why people are in awe when faced with some jerk with a university degree or job.
It is rooted in tradition: it used to take an exceptionally intelligent person to acquire an academic degree - this is no longer the case, at least in humanities it isn't.
Posted by Alisa at December 15, 2007 08:15 PM

There are indeed various forms of intelligence.

But I like the quotation - I do regard wisdom as different thing from intelligence.

Intelligence implies problem solving, wisdom is more about what things are "problems" that need to be "solved".


Posted by Paul Marks at December 15, 2007 09:27 PM

Many highly intelligent people are high spectrum autistics,outside their field they are often infantile an emotionally underdeveloped.


Posted by Ron Brick at December 15, 2007 10:07 PM

Yes indeed Wisdom and intellegence are two different things.
Intellegence is getting yourself out of a locked room when the handle of the door has fallen off on the other side.
Wisdom is not being daft enough to slam it shut in the first place!
Politicians cannot see the difference between these two positions and so show up in the "Stupid" part of our graph...


Posted by RAB at December 16, 2007 12:31 AM

I have always liked:

"You can't fool me because I'm too stupid"

From a B&W cartoon in the 30s or 40s.

"Tuffy's Tavern" I believe.


Posted by M. Simon at December 16, 2007 01:17 AM

Ron,

A touch of schizophrenia doesn't hurt either.


Posted by M. Simon at December 16, 2007 01:19 AM

M.Simon,
Nor a touch of egomania.


Posted by Ron Brick at December 16, 2007 01:39 AM

Ron,

Being high-functional autistic is not an insurmountable barrier to wisdom, it just takes a lot more swings of the hammer.

Thumbs are overrated anyway.


Posted by Dishman at December 16, 2007 02:29 AM

Emperor's new clothes


Posted by steve at December 16, 2007 12:20 PM

Thanks. I am suprised that what I think is my second comment on Samizdata was a 'quote of the day'.

I don't get why people are in awe when faced with some jerk with a university degree or job. Why people assume that a Marxist professor is intelligent. Being an "intellectual" (i.e. university type with humanities degree) doesn't prove that you're intelligent, rather, in my eyes, it makes you suspect of the opposite.

Marxist academics are not restricted to the arts and humanities, they can be found amongst physicists and mathmaticians too. Einstein had Communist sympathies.


Posted by James at December 17, 2007 12:59 AM

Years ago I wrote:

Information is not Knowledge

Knowledge is not Wisdom

Wisdom is not Understanding

Only to discover that T S Eliot had expressed the same long before and more poetically as:

"How much wisdom has been lost to knowledge;
How much knowledge to information?"

Is not intelligence the ability to discern or apply the relation of bits of perceived information to one another?


Posted by R. Richard Schweitzer at December 17, 2007 04:20 AM

As to "Intellectuals" in today's parlance, one would do well to refer to Nozick's definition in his " Why Intellectuals Hate Capitalism."


Posted by R. Richard Schweitzer at December 17, 2007 04:42 AM

I misquoted Eliot;

It should read:

"Where is the wisdom we have lost to knowledge? Where is the knowledge we have lost to information?"


Posted by R. Richard Schweitzer at December 17, 2007 06:10 AM
"Where is the wisdom we have lost to knowledge? Where is the knowledge we have lost to information?"

I don't understand this. Does it say we have some inner wisdom, genetic, innate wisdom, that is lost when we acquire consciously information and knowledge ? Nonsense.
Not all knowledge is correct, but there is no wisdom without knowledge.


Posted by Jacob at December 17, 2007 04:33 PM

Well, perhaps my non-poetic sqib is easier to grasp.

Of course to say that there is no "Wisdom" without "Knowledge" implies we understand what "Knowledge" is, and that seems to have puzzled philosophers fpr some time.

And surely, most of what is accepted to be "Knowledge" is based on information (putting together bits and pieces of information derived from perceptions and determining their relationships).

It has been written that Knowledge is information which has significance to its possesor; and that is possibly true of most living and all sentient beings.

R. Richard Schweitzer
s24rrs@aol.com


Posted by R. Richard Schweitzer at December 17, 2007 10:56 PM
"...implies we understand what "Knowledge" is,.."

And also implies we understand what "Wisdom" is. The term "wisdom" is not easier to understand or define than the term 'knowledge". Maybe "wisdom" could be defined as the capacity of acquiring knowledge, in which case one needs to actually posses some knowledge in order to make one's wisdom felt.


Posted by Jacob at December 18, 2007 12:13 PM

"Many highly intelligent people are high spectrum autistics; outside their field they are often infantile and emotionally underdeveloped."
(cough)Richard Dawkins(cough).
Also sounds like a consultant cardiologist I have to work with.


Posted by Steve P at December 18, 2007 06:20 PM

Intelligence is about being clever, whereas wisdom is about being right. I can't be the first to have said that.


Posted by AnotherJohn at December 18, 2007 07:21 PM
Intelligence is about being clever

How do you know somebody's clever ? Someone who is wrong most of the time isn't clever in my book.


Posted by Jacob at December 18, 2007 09:03 PM
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