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October 22, 2007
Monday
 
 
Samizdata just had a near death experience
Perry de Havilland (London)  Administrative

As you might have noticed, the Samizdata server crapped out in a major way... and just to make it menthol, we also lost all our back-ups after 24th September (quite how that happened is still a bit unclear).

Well at least I had a separate set of back-ups also made by someone else, so no problem, thinks I... so imagine my happiness when I discover that the back-up back-up server crapped out some time ago and we were not in fact being backed up. That would have been nice to know.

I will be manually reconstructing the posts as best I can from the full RSS feeds.

Oh joy.

Needless to say I shall be setting up some sort of full site backup myself now.

Comments

Phew.

I notice that after I did my posting this morning about France, the one immediately below this posting, there was a comment, just before everything vanished, but now that comment is gone. Is commenting now back to normal?


Posted by Brian Micklethwait at October 22, 2007 11:56 PM

Disaster recovery is one of those typically neglected, ultimately tedious subjects that nobody wants to fuck with.

Until it's needed.

Glad to see your situation wasn't fatal.


Posted by Eric Blair at October 22, 2007 11:57 PM

We had the same thing happen on Silent Running a couple of years ago. Everything was gone, including my Alisa In Wonderland, that was sub-hosted. Turned me off blogging, among other things. BTW, could be another good reason to RSS the comments, Perry:-) Anyway, speedy recovery.


Posted by Alisa at October 23, 2007 12:10 AM

Brian: we have basically lost 1 month of comments. "Fuck" was all I could find to say when I discovered that. At least we can salvage the articles, though it will take a while to get them all back as I have to do it manually.

Eric: I thought I had a back-up back-up in place. Seems I was wrong. Oh well. I will be establishing something under my direct control in the near future.


Posted by Perry de Havilland at October 23, 2007 12:17 AM

BTW, Perry: I have the complete set of comments for the last 13 posts or so. Let me know if you want them.


Posted by Alisa at October 23, 2007 12:18 AM

Alisa, they would have to be entered manually so I am not sure that will be viable... but I will let you know once I get all the articles re-entered :-/


Posted by Perry de Havilland at October 23, 2007 12:30 AM

Sigh,

I deal with this all the time. My own stuff is held as at least three copies in three different places.

Paranoia is just a rational reaction to the world as it is.


Posted by countingcats at October 23, 2007 12:35 AM

Perry: actually, I have the entire pages, the post and the comments. They have the FF extension header, but that's easy to get rid of. Seeing as you have to restore the posts anyway, it is worth considering. And, as it turns out, I have much more than 13 in the recycling bin.


Posted by Alisa at October 23, 2007 12:49 AM

Damn, hit "post' too early. I was going to add that it's up to you, and that it is way past bed time for me. I'll check in tomorrow.


Posted by Alisa at October 23, 2007 12:53 AM

Much as I would *love* to restore everything, I do not think there is any way to...

1. Put the comments back in via the MT back-end (i.e. they will all have to be loaded manually into the comments form of the appropriate article)

2. MT does not have any way to edit the comment times and dates and therefore I cannot get them back into chronological order in batches


Posted by Perry de Havilland at October 23, 2007 12:54 AM

Perry

Salutations in your hour of trial, and I know nothing of these things, but ...

How about a posting under each original posting, all of the text of which would be invisible under normal circumstances (as per the second part of a long posting), with all the comments in one great lump of text.

Please don't bother explaining why this is silly if it is. A simple no will more than suffice. As will silence.


Posted by Brian Micklethwait at October 23, 2007 01:13 AM

Well, I have 19 suckitspammers pages and 8 permalink pages (different ones) with all of the comments up to within minutes of the crash. They are all in a folder as "web page, complete". Let me know if you find a way. I think they can be sent easily with YouSendIt.com. Getting them back into the system sounds like a nightmare to be avoided.


Posted by Midwesterner at October 23, 2007 01:15 AM

Here's a crazy idea. But maybe not so crazy.

What about just putting them on a server as HTML pages the way Alisa and I have them, and then put a link in the first comment of each post linking to the stored page? It would let people see them all though they wouldn't be archived. :-(


Posted by Midwesterner at October 23, 2007 01:21 AM

Unless I can find a way of batch reinstalling the comments into MT's back-end, I cannot really see it will be practical. Doing it manually is not an option because unlike the articles themselves...

(1) MT has limited editing options for comments (i.e you cannot edit times and dates)

(2) Entering them manually via the front end would take forever even if I temporarily disabled the Turing test.

So, please do not throw away the things you have in case some way manifests itself to put them back in the correct order in a way that will not take a geological age, but as things stand at the moment I am assuming only the articles can be restored.

I intend to put multiply redundant multi-site back-ups in place which I will know are working so that this will not be allowed to happen again.


Posted by Perry de Havilland at October 23, 2007 01:26 AM

Perry

I hope you do not mind that I restored the three (not just one as previously stated) comments that appeared on the previous posting before disaster struck, in the form of one big new first comment.

I must say I do like the sound of Midwesterner's "crazy" idea. Far better than my separate posting idea, which was a crude approximation to what he said, it seems to me. But (reprise) what do I know?


Posted by Brian Micklethwait at October 23, 2007 01:31 AM

That is fine, Brian, splendid in fact, but please note that I also have an e-mail address that works just fine :-)


Posted by Perry de Havilland at October 23, 2007 01:38 AM

It was the Man trying to keep you down...


Posted by Isaac at October 23, 2007 02:38 AM

Nah, just the internet gremlins, Isaac


Posted by Perry de Havilland at October 23, 2007 02:43 AM

I'd blame it on global warming. After all, that's being given as the cause of everything else these days.... ;-)


Posted by Ted Schuerzinger at October 23, 2007 04:23 AM

Did samizdata see a white tunnel? and meet any dead relatives? Awesome!! An actual witness!! Tell us more, please!


Posted by nick g. at October 23, 2007 08:23 AM

Damn it, Perry. Now we might never find out what Clarkson's liver tastes like, and whether smoking squirrels have nice knees.


Posted by Alisa at October 23, 2007 09:48 AM
MT does not have any way to edit the comment times and dates and therefore I cannot get them back into chronological order in batches

MT has an import function where you can feed it text files with all the post information included in it, including comments and trackbacks (with all dates and times intact). I used it a few times back in the day when I was on MT, though the format is still very useful for backing up/restoring ExpressionEngine blogs.

Even if you don't include comments it should be a hell of a lot faster for restoring the posts.

Let me know if you need any assistance.


Posted by Aegir at October 23, 2007 01:49 PM

Sounds like you need a competent sysadmin.

Now where did I leave my CV? Perhaps I forgot to back it up ;-)


Posted by Andrew Duffin at October 23, 2007 07:04 PM

Permalinks, that's what iIhave - thanks, Mid.


Posted by Alisa at October 23, 2007 07:28 PM

All I can say, understanding none of the technicalities
is welcome back.
You must be short of a little hair by now Perry!


Posted by RAB at October 24, 2007 12:33 AM

I kind of like Mid's idea.

You can also try turning off the lights, lighting some incense and playing "Dust in the Wind."

Now, the real question: How can we blame this on George W. Bush, Da Jooz, or capitalist globalism?


Posted by Sunfish at October 24, 2007 05:50 AM

One could also blame it on the Northern Ireland power company for taking out the backup server while I was (am) on the road for 6 months...


Posted by Dale Amon at October 27, 2007 01:35 AM
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