Good lord. Look at Blair's smug grimace four fifths of the way through the feed. Unbelievable.

BRILLIANT

Marvellous!

I came across this earlier today. (Link)
It seems that even the brain-dead left are beginning to see what a dangerous man Blair is.

Grayling has been consistently sound on civil liberty. This segment of his speech is worth quoting:

A couple of years ago, the International Herald Tribune ran an article, penned jointly by the unlamented David Blunkett and several other interior ministers of EU states, arguing for the proposition that the first duty of governments is to ensure their citizens' security. This is a falsehood, and a dangerous one. Their first duty is quite different: it is to protect their citizens' liberties.

Wow. I wish we had someone like that in the U.S. Senate.

Want to see Tony Blair getting a political kick in the cobblers?

Asked and answered, surely!

Why should British taxpayers be forced to pay for a subway in Warsaw? Why should they be forced to pay for one at all?

His heart's in the right place when he opposed European centrism, but he needs to examine his fundamental principles. If a Manchester taxpayer can be forced to pay the Tube, why not for Warsaw, as well?

- Josh

ouch.

Why should British taxpayers be forced to pay for a subway in Warsaw? Why should they be forced to pay for one at all?

I completely agree! But first things first...

Excellent!!!

Glad to see my decision to join the UKIP being fully justified!

Thanks for that link, Mr de Havilland.

That is a thing of pure and perfect beauty.

Anyone got Blair's response?

DK

If a Manchester taxpayer can be forced to pay the Tube, why not for Warsaw, as well?

Josh, have you seen the figures for regional spending in England? There's a nice graph here courtesy of another appalling -- and useless -- drain on the public purse.

I think you will find that it is London taxpayers who are subsidising the Manchester trams, actually.

DK

One smiles at the very idea of a taxpayer in Manchester. I am prepared to believe there is one. Anyone got the poor guy's phone number? We should all buy him a pint.

Nice.

But with all this being true, why has the man not been driven from office in disgrace?

But with all this being true, why has the man not been driven from office in disgrace?

Because a whole bunch of stupid bastards keep on voting for him.

BTW, excuse my ignorance on this matter, but who is the UKIP guy doing such a fine job?

DK

And one just as good assault by Mr Farage on the EU Commissioners here (Link).

Enjoy.

Just perused the UKIP's site. I'd support em if I were a Brit. Fantastic kick in the shins he gave there.

Greatest. Politician. Ever.

Josh - Manchester does not pay for the Tube - Londoners have to pay for Manchester's Tram!

Nice to see Farage is doing something other than chasing skirt. Those exchanges to make one say "yeah!" out loud. He certainly does not pull his punches.

There are some good Conservative party "M.E.P.s" - for example the two from my own "region" of the East Midlands.

Although one of these two is Roger Helmer - who has the had the Euro Conservative whip withdrawn because he tried to expose the corruption of various E.U. people.

Mr Cameron (of couse) has just ratted on the one policy the Conservatives had to reduce the power of the E.U. - withdrawing from the "Common Fisheries Policy".

Mr Cameron latest speech is classic piece of dishonesty "let us repeal the Human Rights Act" but (errr) we stay under the European (not E.U. but it might as well be) Human Rights Convention - so the only effect of the policy would be to make people go to the European Human Rights Court - with any "British Bill of Rights" (Mr Cameron forgets the one of 1698) having to be "compliant" with the European Human Rights Convention.

As for the British people: They have a chance today.

In the United Kingdom parliamentary byelection caused by the death of Erik Forth the Conservative party candidate is the corrupt and and pro E.U. "three jobs Bob" (a man who thinks election law is for lesser beings) and the U.K.I.P. candaidate is the very Mr Farage that you show Perry.

Mr Farage has large posters in the town concerned and his literature has gone to all electors - so they can not claim not to know what the choice is.

Now let us see whose view of representative democracy is proved correct.

You (I believe) still cling to the idea that representative democracy works - I take a more cynical view.

As I have said - let us see.

1689 - not 1698.

I apologize for my crapness.

I’m told that the next couple of minutes is even better as Blair starts screaming at Farage. Anyone know where that piece is?

BTW, excuse my ignorance on this matter, but who is the UKIP guy doing such a fine job?

What he said.

And exactly what is the UKIP? Last I heard, it was a group a rather unpleasant reputation for having attitudes that do not at all resemble what I saw in the clip.

Nigel Farage is God. He makes Blair and Cameron look like retarded, but vicious, monkeys. So what if he chases the ladies? And perhaps UKIP's "reputation" among those who don't take the trouble to look at their program is false and misleading. I'm sure that's not Blair's or Cameron's fault, though.

unlike you[Blair], he [Chirac] stands up for the French national interest

I too would like to see Blair's response to that timely haranguing.

The efforts to discredit the U.K.I.P. take us into the world of the British security services.

Such organizations as the National Front and the British National Party have traditionally had a goodly number of people with security services links sent to join them. Such "inflitrators" are supposed to just warn of any criminal activity from members of these organizations - but they also work hard within them.

Not hard to understand - the British state benefits from having nasty racialist organizations (it gives it an excuse for various laws and other activties that it wants to put in place anyway).

With U.K.I.P. the idea was more complicated.

The idea being to spread the view that anyone who is against the E.U. is "racist". A lie spread by the whole establisment (inculding the disgusting "Dave" Cameron and the Chairman of the Conservative party Francis Maud).

So various ex B.N.P. people just happen to try and join U.K.I.P.

U.K.I.P. has worked very hard to keep them out - and to expell them if they slip in somewhere.

However, when one is dealing with the security services (and this is a security services operation) just exculding ex B.N.P. people is not enough.

Someone may come along with no racialist connections at all, denouce racialism (which they would need to to get in to U.K.I.P.) and then suddenly start saying the most nasty racialist things - in order for newspapers or broadcasters (such as the B.B.C.) to "expose" them.

This is way U.K.I.P. has to be so paranoid about people who want to be members and candidates - sad, but such is modern Britian.

It is also one of the reasons that U.K.I.P. keeps trying to increase the number of black and Asian members and candidates. I dislike such campaigns (I would prefer political parties to be "colour blind") but I can understand why U.K.I.P. is doing this.

By the way I am not a member of U.K.I.P.

If A Blair is the root of all evil, since, we're told, he retires next year or earlier, relax. He'll soon be gone.

(Tho why anyone thinks Big Broon will be much different I don't know.)

Why on earth is Farage not leader of UKIP?They have someone called -and now I have forgotten his name- and he is a complete nonentity -oh yes, Roger Knapman (presuamably because every time he speaks people fall asleep?)

It's so entertaining to watch the British Parliament. So much more entertaining than to watch the U.S. Congress.

That's the European Parliament, not the British one. Anyone saying that in the British House of Commons would be slung out immediately, as much as the rest of us might support them.

Down, Britons. I was just trying to think of two English cities, and Manchester and London were the first two I thought of.

- Josh

W. E. Messamore said:

It's so entertaining to watch the British Parliament. So much more entertaining than to watch the U.S. Congress.

Clearly you are very inexperienced at watching British parliamentary activity or you have just made a very clever and subtle observation.

Tho why anyone thinks Big Broon will be much different I don't know

I doubt many people here think that... and certainly the UKIP guys in the video do not think that.

Magnficient - he combines nativism, Europhobia and libertarianism. What more could we want?

it's a pity this video doesnt show Blair's response. Anyone who's seen it will know that Farage was made to look a complete idiot. the side with the facts will always win, the side with empty rhetoric will always lose. and that is why UKIP lost this and most other debates on your europe.

It is unbelievable how reality can be distorted if you only see one side of an argument. If you google this stuff, you will easily find the first half of the dispute, (where Blair looks like a fool, and the EU like shit) whereas the second part (with Blair's response) is nowhere to be found, even though it is absolutely brilliant. You should first see Blair's response, and only then form an opinion. Cheers.

Kevin, replies like this are worthless without links. And moreover, the notion that there are always "two sies to every story" is just plain wrong. Everytime I hear an attack against racism, I do not also have to go hear the BNP or Ku-Klux-Klan side of the story to know what my opinions are. Similarly I do not have to hear how Blair actually replied to know exactly what he said and the fact I dsagree with him.

But the whole point is that this NOT the argument being made but rather that people just do not confront Blair like that ideologically in Parliament these days.