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	<title>Comments on: That which is seen versus that which is not seen</title>
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		<title>By: Alisa</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2013/02/that-which-is-seen-versus-that-which-is-not-seen/#comment-293747</link>
		<dc:creator>Alisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 11:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='http://www.samizdata.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Quote of the Day &#124; Les Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2013/02/that-which-is-seen-versus-that-which-is-not-seen/#comment-293257</link>
		<dc:creator>Quote of the Day &#124; Les Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 21:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] &#8220;Preposterous Keynesian fallacy at work. It presupposes that money allocated to some project via the political process is more likely to create a ‘multiplier’ than market driven uses of that money… and it assumes that the money taken by the state by force would not have been invested in something more worthwhile in aggregate if the decisions were left to its original owners before it was confiscated by the state.&#8221; &#8211;  Perry De Havilland [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;Preposterous Keynesian fallacy at work. It presupposes that money allocated to some project via the political process is more likely to create a ‘multiplier’ than market driven uses of that money… and it assumes that the money taken by the state by force would not have been invested in something more worthwhile in aggregate if the decisions were left to its original owners before it was confiscated by the state.&#8221; &#8211;  Perry De Havilland [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Julie near Chicago</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2013/02/that-which-is-seen-versus-that-which-is-not-seen/#comment-293035</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie near Chicago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 05:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Awisa:  You&#039;we wooking in the wong place.  :(]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awisa:  You&#8217;we wooking in the wong place.  <img src='http://www.samizdata.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Alisa</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2013/02/that-which-is-seen-versus-that-which-is-not-seen/#comment-292800</link>
		<dc:creator>Alisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shhh! Be vewy , vewy quiet . I&#039;m wooking for wogic...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shhh! Be vewy , vewy quiet . I&#8217;m wooking for wogic&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Midwesterner</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2013/02/that-which-is-seen-versus-that-which-is-not-seen/#comment-292679</link>
		<dc:creator>Midwesterner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 01:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Julie&#039;s comment &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-ceg763Voc&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;set to music&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie&#8217;s comment <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-ceg763Voc" rel="nofollow">set to music</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie near Chicago</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2013/02/that-which-is-seen-versus-that-which-is-not-seen/#comment-292675</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie near Chicago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 01:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rrrri-i-ightttt.  :-)))!!!

That&#039;s all, folks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rrrri-i-ightttt.  <img src='http://www.samizdata.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> ))!!!</p>
<p>That&#8217;s all, folks!</p>
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		<title>By: veryretired</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2013/02/that-which-is-seen-versus-that-which-is-not-seen/#comment-292674</link>
		<dc:creator>veryretired</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 01:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hysterical.

I have rarely seen such a serious thread spin into inspired lunacy so wonderfully.

Long live the carrott/banana controversy. When will we see a thorough documentary on this important subject by the BBC?

The world wonders...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hysterical.</p>
<p>I have rarely seen such a serious thread spin into inspired lunacy so wonderfully.</p>
<p>Long live the carrott/banana controversy. When will we see a thorough documentary on this important subject by the BBC?</p>
<p>The world wonders&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Midwesterner</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2013/02/that-which-is-seen-versus-that-which-is-not-seen/#comment-292670</link>
		<dc:creator>Midwesterner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 01:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Logic therefore suggests that the idea of the carrot as an actual existent is the result of mass hypnosis, possibly an example of mass hysteria and panic brought on by the existence of Mr. Bootle’s theories; or, in terms of the Root Cause (of the panic, not of the carrot), the existence of Mr. Bootle himself.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No, I&#039;m pretty sure this is true because I read it on the internet.  

It was Bug&#039;s Bunny that created the carrot allusion.  Because he is always alluding to a carrot.  Disney tried to trademark the carrot but they couldn&#039;t because Bugs Bunny works for Warner Brothers.  It turn out they had to pay royalties to Peter Cottontail and Mr. MacGregor because of trademark infringement.

All clear now?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Logic therefore suggests that the idea of the carrot as an actual existent is the result of mass hypnosis, possibly an example of mass hysteria and panic brought on by the existence of Mr. Bootle’s theories; or, in terms of the Root Cause (of the panic, not of the carrot), the existence of Mr. Bootle himself.</p></blockquote>
<p>No, I&#8217;m pretty sure this is true because I read it on the internet.  </p>
<p>It was Bug&#8217;s Bunny that created the carrot allusion.  Because he is always alluding to a carrot.  Disney tried to trademark the carrot but they couldn&#8217;t because Bugs Bunny works for Warner Brothers.  It turn out they had to pay royalties to Peter Cottontail and Mr. MacGregor because of trademark infringement.</p>
<p>All clear now?</p>
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		<title>By: Alisa</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2013/02/that-which-is-seen-versus-that-which-is-not-seen/#comment-292632</link>
		<dc:creator>Alisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;I sincerely hope this is not the case as just last evening I had for supper a lentil soup whose enjoyability was enhanced by the inclusion of chopped carrots in the pot. I do hope I was not merely in grip of Bootlean gustatory hallucination&lt;/blockquote&gt; False consciousness?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I sincerely hope this is not the case as just last evening I had for supper a lentil soup whose enjoyability was enhanced by the inclusion of chopped carrots in the pot. I do hope I was not merely in grip of Bootlean gustatory hallucination</p></blockquote>
<p> False consciousness?</p>
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		<title>By: Julie near Chicago</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie near Chicago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bruce, an excellent thought, as the entertainment so provided would keep the workers off the streets and out of the hair of bureaucrats, where they might do injury to the lice which make their homes therein.  We should take your scheme under advisement.

Alisa, you raise an extremely nettlesome point.  To wit:

The curvature of the banana being, as your citation shows, naturally mandated, one must assume that the banana itself is naturally mandated;  thus, it exists.  It is, in a manner of speaking, &quot;the container for the thing contained&quot; (the latter being the curvature in question).

The carrot, lacking any natural mandate as to its attributes, characteristics, or qualities, may not exist at all;  since that which exists must exist as something, which somethingness we apprehend only as a result of its attributes &amp;c.

Logic therefore suggests that the idea of the carrot as an actual existent is the result of mass hypnosis, possibly an example of mass hysteria and panic brought on by the existence of Mr. Bootle&#039;s theories;  or, in terms of the Root Cause (of the panic, not of the carrot), the existence of Mr. Bootle himself.

I sincerely hope this is not the case as just last evening I had for supper a lentil soup whose enjoyability was enhanced by the inclusion of chopped carrots in the pot.  I do hope I was not merely in grip of Bootlean gustatory hallucination....

But one cannot argue with basic logic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce, an excellent thought, as the entertainment so provided would keep the workers off the streets and out of the hair of bureaucrats, where they might do injury to the lice which make their homes therein.  We should take your scheme under advisement.</p>
<p>Alisa, you raise an extremely nettlesome point.  To wit:</p>
<p>The curvature of the banana being, as your citation shows, naturally mandated, one must assume that the banana itself is naturally mandated;  thus, it exists.  It is, in a manner of speaking, &#8220;the container for the thing contained&#8221; (the latter being the curvature in question).</p>
<p>The carrot, lacking any natural mandate as to its attributes, characteristics, or qualities, may not exist at all;  since that which exists must exist as something, which somethingness we apprehend only as a result of its attributes &amp;c.</p>
<p>Logic therefore suggests that the idea of the carrot as an actual existent is the result of mass hypnosis, possibly an example of mass hysteria and panic brought on by the existence of Mr. Bootle&#8217;s theories;  or, in terms of the Root Cause (of the panic, not of the carrot), the existence of Mr. Bootle himself.</p>
<p>I sincerely hope this is not the case as just last evening I had for supper a lentil soup whose enjoyability was enhanced by the inclusion of chopped carrots in the pot.  I do hope I was not merely in grip of Bootlean gustatory hallucination&#8230;.</p>
<p>But one cannot argue with basic logic.</p>
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		<title>By: Laird</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2013/02/that-which-is-seen-versus-that-which-is-not-seen/#comment-292613</link>
		<dc:creator>Laird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 21:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry, Rich. I&#039;ll try to do better in the future!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Rich. I&#8217;ll try to do better in the future!</p>
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		<title>By: Alisa</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2013/02/that-which-is-seen-versus-that-which-is-not-seen/#comment-292608</link>
		<dc:creator>Alisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 21:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am afraid that neither a banana nor a carrot are viable options. The former is unacceptable, as Julie quite rightly points out, due to its &lt;a href=&quot;http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX:31994R2257:EN:NOT&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;naturally mandated curvature&lt;/a&gt;. The latter is similarly unacceptable because no such naturally mandated standards &lt;a href=&quot;http://eur-lex.europa.eu/Result.do?arg0=carrot&amp;arg1=&amp;arg2=&amp;titre=titre&amp;chlang=en&amp;RechType=RECH_mot&amp;Submit=Search&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;seem to exist&lt;/a&gt; as of yet, and so we are left with no option other than to patiently await farther instructions from above with regard to naturally acceptable standards for carrots.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am afraid that neither a banana nor a carrot are viable options. The former is unacceptable, as Julie quite rightly points out, due to its <a href="http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX:31994R2257:EN:NOT" rel="nofollow">naturally mandated curvature</a>. The latter is similarly unacceptable because no such naturally mandated standards <a href="http://eur-lex.europa.eu/Result.do?arg0=carrot&amp;arg1=&amp;arg2=&amp;titre=titre&amp;chlang=en&amp;RechType=RECH_mot&amp;Submit=Search" rel="nofollow">seem to exist</a> as of yet, and so we are left with no option other than to patiently await farther instructions from above with regard to naturally acceptable standards for carrots.</p>
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