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		<title>By: Paul Marks</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2013/02/remind-me-again-why-sarah-palin-is-considered-to-be-stupid/#comment-301798</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Marks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 12:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[jdgalt - quite correct.

I apologise for not mentioning the fact that government spending is going UP.

I have mentioned it on other threads - but you are quite correct, it is something of such fundemental importantce that it should be mentioned on EVERY relevant thread.

Again - I apologise for failing to mention, on this thread, that government spendin is going UP.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jdgalt &#8211; quite correct.</p>
<p>I apologise for not mentioning the fact that government spending is going UP.</p>
<p>I have mentioned it on other threads &#8211; but you are quite correct, it is something of such fundemental importantce that it should be mentioned on EVERY relevant thread.</p>
<p>Again &#8211; I apologise for failing to mention, on this thread, that government spendin is going UP.</p>
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		<title>By: jdgalt</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdgalt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 03:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m astounded nobody has even mentioned the fact that the &quot;cuts&quot; aren&#039;t cuts at all!  Spending is still increasing, it only looks like less because the administration has built some strawmen behind it to give a false perspective.

The rats are already starting to leave this sinking ship of a nation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m astounded nobody has even mentioned the fact that the &#8220;cuts&#8221; aren&#8217;t cuts at all!  Spending is still increasing, it only looks like less because the administration has built some strawmen behind it to give a false perspective.</p>
<p>The rats are already starting to leave this sinking ship of a nation.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Macker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Macker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 05:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The NRA isn&#039;t reliable but some anonymous Internet clowns who can&#039;t do math are?  Alex Jones is?  Baloney.  The purchases were not &quot;all hollowpoint rounds&quot;.  That&#039;s bullshit too.  Heck they even buy blanks if you&#039;d bother to read a reliable news article.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NRA isn&#8217;t reliable but some anonymous Internet clowns who can&#8217;t do math are?  Alex Jones is?  Baloney.  The purchases were not &#8220;all hollowpoint rounds&#8221;.  That&#8217;s bullshit too.  Heck they even buy blanks if you&#8217;d bother to read a reliable news article.</p>
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		<title>By: PaulH</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2013/02/remind-me-again-why-sarah-palin-is-considered-to-be-stupid/#comment-300480</link>
		<dc:creator>PaulH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2013 22:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Laird - There&#039;s a difference between something that could be called a &#039;death panel&#039; (i.e. a setting where you can discuss how you want your final days handled should it become an issue, which seems quite a libertarian idea to me), and what Palin and many others implied by the term, which was a panel that would decide when to kill you.  To the best of my knowledge there&#039;s nothing in Obamacare that establishes the latter.  Now practically speaking there will be something that has that effect; Obamacare has a finite budget, which means at some point somebody will be refused treatment based on a cost/benefit analysis where their idea of the benefit will differ starkly with that of the governments&#039;.  But that&#039;s not substantively different to the private sector, as I mentioned.  If you have insurance you almost certainly have a lifetime claim limit*, as well as treatments that aren&#039;t covered because they&#039;re off formulary or considered &#039;experimental&#039;, so at some point you can be cut off.  And if you don&#039;t have insurance then the treatment you get is based not on your medical need, or even on somebody&#039;s perception of your medical need, but on your ability to make money.

lucklucky - I don&#039;t hold Palin to a different standard, and I&#039;m not particularly opposed to her.  I think she performed woefully in the 2008 campaign, but find it hard to blame her too much for that as she was thrown in at the deepest of ends.  I&#039;ve seen little evidence that she&#039;s particularly smart (though she&#039;s certainly &#039;canny&#039;), but neither have I seen much that shows she&#039;s stupid; mostly she seems to be quiet good at (often correct) soundbites, but rarely provides any depth to back them up.  But the question in the original post was why she&#039;s called stupid, and I pointed out something she said that (even while it could theoretically be true), would make her appear stupid to many reasonable people.


*My tip is to be insured by a religious organisation; I worked for the insurance division of a church that had a member reach their lifetime limit ($2million, iirc).  I presume they took a look in their religious book of choice and had a think about what the limit would mean to the person, because they promptly doubled it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laird &#8211; There&#8217;s a difference between something that could be called a &#8216;death panel&#8217; (i.e. a setting where you can discuss how you want your final days handled should it become an issue, which seems quite a libertarian idea to me), and what Palin and many others implied by the term, which was a panel that would decide when to kill you.  To the best of my knowledge there&#8217;s nothing in Obamacare that establishes the latter.  Now practically speaking there will be something that has that effect; Obamacare has a finite budget, which means at some point somebody will be refused treatment based on a cost/benefit analysis where their idea of the benefit will differ starkly with that of the governments&#8217;.  But that&#8217;s not substantively different to the private sector, as I mentioned.  If you have insurance you almost certainly have a lifetime claim limit*, as well as treatments that aren&#8217;t covered because they&#8217;re off formulary or considered &#8216;experimental&#8217;, so at some point you can be cut off.  And if you don&#8217;t have insurance then the treatment you get is based not on your medical need, or even on somebody&#8217;s perception of your medical need, but on your ability to make money.</p>
<p>lucklucky &#8211; I don&#8217;t hold Palin to a different standard, and I&#8217;m not particularly opposed to her.  I think she performed woefully in the 2008 campaign, but find it hard to blame her too much for that as she was thrown in at the deepest of ends.  I&#8217;ve seen little evidence that she&#8217;s particularly smart (though she&#8217;s certainly &#8216;canny&#8217;), but neither have I seen much that shows she&#8217;s stupid; mostly she seems to be quiet good at (often correct) soundbites, but rarely provides any depth to back them up.  But the question in the original post was why she&#8217;s called stupid, and I pointed out something she said that (even while it could theoretically be true), would make her appear stupid to many reasonable people.</p>
<p>*My tip is to be insured by a religious organisation; I worked for the insurance division of a church that had a member reach their lifetime limit ($2million, iirc).  I presume they took a look in their religious book of choice and had a think about what the limit would mean to the person, because they promptly doubled it.</p>
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		<title>By: lucklucky</title>
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		<dc:creator>lucklucky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2013 20:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Compared to most politial-journalist class Palin is a rather intelligent person. 
But to PaulH&#039;s of this world it seems she warrants a different set of standards...

Maybe a month ago Cameron said the UK Government was reducing debt...seems he doesn&#039;t know that reducing deficit it means there is still deficit, and deficit implies increasing the debt... anyone called him stupid?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Compared to most politial-journalist class Palin is a rather intelligent person.<br />
But to PaulH&#8217;s of this world it seems she warrants a different set of standards&#8230;</p>
<p>Maybe a month ago Cameron said the UK Government was reducing debt&#8230;seems he doesn&#8217;t know that reducing deficit it means there is still deficit, and deficit implies increasing the debt&#8230; anyone called him stupid?</p>
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		<title>By: Laird</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2013/02/remind-me-again-why-sarah-palin-is-considered-to-be-stupid/#comment-300409</link>
		<dc:creator>Laird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2013 19:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If I may return to the DHS ammunition purchase sidebar for a moment, I now see that DHS has also purchased and retrofitted for use in the US over &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.sodahead.com/united-states/obama-dhs-purchases-2700-light-armored-tanks-to-go-with-their-16-billion-bullet-stockpile-what/question-3558987/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;2,700 Mine Resistant Armor Protected Vehicles (MRAPs&lt;/a&gt;). Why the government needs armored personnel carriers in US cities I&#039;ll leave as a exercise for the reader. However, I will suggest that it&#039;s of a piece with their inexplicably large purchases of ammunition.

And PaulH&#039;s chiding notwithstanding, I mostly agree with MO&#039;s comment about Palin. (And making purely factual statements about Biden hardly counts as &quot;invective&quot;!) But PaulH is absolutely wrong about Obamacare: it does explicitly set up committees which can legitimately be called &quot;death panels&quot;, and there is no analog to them in most private insurance plans (although HMOs might be different).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I may return to the DHS ammunition purchase sidebar for a moment, I now see that DHS has also purchased and retrofitted for use in the US over <a href="https://www.sodahead.com/united-states/obama-dhs-purchases-2700-light-armored-tanks-to-go-with-their-16-billion-bullet-stockpile-what/question-3558987/" rel="nofollow">2,700 Mine Resistant Armor Protected Vehicles (MRAPs</a>). Why the government needs armored personnel carriers in US cities I&#8217;ll leave as a exercise for the reader. However, I will suggest that it&#8217;s of a piece with their inexplicably large purchases of ammunition.</p>
<p>And PaulH&#8217;s chiding notwithstanding, I mostly agree with MO&#8217;s comment about Palin. (And making purely factual statements about Biden hardly counts as &#8220;invective&#8221;!) But PaulH is absolutely wrong about Obamacare: it does explicitly set up committees which can legitimately be called &#8220;death panels&#8221;, and there is no analog to them in most private insurance plans (although HMOs might be different).</p>
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		<title>By: BigFatFlyingBloke</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigFatFlyingBloke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2013 12:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;PaulM, if you believe that anything published in the Washington Post constitutes “debunking” your sceptometer is seriously out of alignment. 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition (and they’ve bought several hundred million more rounds since that figure was released) is equivalent to over 22 years’ worth of the ammunition we used in the Iraq war at its height. It’s a staggeringly immense amount, more by orders of magnitude than they could possibly use for “target practice”. It’s so much more than ordinary government bulk purchases that, as has already been noted, it’s making it difficult for ordinary citizens to buy ammo. Visit your local gun shop or Walmart and take a look at the bare shelves. And of course the price for what remains available has skyrocketed.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If you want a conspiracy that is less insanely dystopian then I can remember a comedian once saying the way to reduce the use of guns to commit crimes was to increase the price of bullets. This could be what they&#039;re doing!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>PaulM, if you believe that anything published in the Washington Post constitutes “debunking” your sceptometer is seriously out of alignment. 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition (and they’ve bought several hundred million more rounds since that figure was released) is equivalent to over 22 years’ worth of the ammunition we used in the Iraq war at its height. It’s a staggeringly immense amount, more by orders of magnitude than they could possibly use for “target practice”. It’s so much more than ordinary government bulk purchases that, as has already been noted, it’s making it difficult for ordinary citizens to buy ammo. Visit your local gun shop or Walmart and take a look at the bare shelves. And of course the price for what remains available has skyrocketed.</p></blockquote>
<p>If you want a conspiracy that is less insanely dystopian then I can remember a comedian once saying the way to reduce the use of guns to commit crimes was to increase the price of bullets. This could be what they&#8217;re doing!</p>
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		<title>By: PaulH</title>
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		<dc:creator>PaulH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2013 08:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mo - One of the things I find most off-putting about political commentary, from either side, is when it resorts to extremes.  As an example, I have no doubt that the Obama administration is corrupt.  But if you think that it&#039;s the most corrupt in the history of the Republic, well I refer you to the whole of US history.  Another example of extremes is the use of &#039;thin end of the wedge&#039; arguments.  Obamacare may be a bad thing, but a) there&#039;s nothing in it that automatically leads to the &#039;death panels&#039; that Palin helped popularise, and b) we already have the functional equivalent, they&#039;re just run by the private sector rather than the government.

There&#039;s an excellent case to be made against Obama.  There may be a good case to be made in favor of Palin, though I&#039;ve yet to hear it.  But moving from argument to invective rarely helps create anything more than an echo chamber.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mo &#8211; One of the things I find most off-putting about political commentary, from either side, is when it resorts to extremes.  As an example, I have no doubt that the Obama administration is corrupt.  But if you think that it&#8217;s the most corrupt in the history of the Republic, well I refer you to the whole of US history.  Another example of extremes is the use of &#8216;thin end of the wedge&#8217; arguments.  Obamacare may be a bad thing, but a) there&#8217;s nothing in it that automatically leads to the &#8216;death panels&#8217; that Palin helped popularise, and b) we already have the functional equivalent, they&#8217;re just run by the private sector rather than the government.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s an excellent case to be made against Obama.  There may be a good case to be made in favor of Palin, though I&#8217;ve yet to hear it.  But moving from argument to invective rarely helps create anything more than an echo chamber.</p>
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		<title>By: Mo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2013 03:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Palin right the majority of the time.  The &quot;stopped clock&quot; line is bullshit.  She&#039;s been right a great deal more than almost any pol or pundit out there.  No, not 100%, but who is?  Joe &quot;Insane in the Brain&quot; Biden?  Wow, we were sold that he was going to be the brains and experience to back up the Won;  instead, he&#039;s the most frightening VP in my lifetime, a senile or stupid, lying venal goof, a real humanitarian who gives about 1% of his money to charity (i.e. a typical lib), and gives advice on how to shoot a shotgun and get indicted on murder charges.  

Palin did make some major league errors of being a naif when it came to the media and the disgusting politics of the national GOP.  But she&#039;s been correct about the cronyism and corruption of the O admin that we&#039;ve maybe NEVER seen in this country, was right about &quot;death panels&quot;, which will be the inevitable outcome of the NHS...oh, I mean, Obamacare...and she has hit the nail on the proverbial head about a great deal else.  

I&#039;m not a Palinista;  I recognized she did have some major problems as a candidate, but I still wish she were President and not the Leftist  lying SCOAMF we have in office now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Palin right the majority of the time.  The &#8220;stopped clock&#8221; line is bullshit.  She&#8217;s been right a great deal more than almost any pol or pundit out there.  No, not 100%, but who is?  Joe &#8220;Insane in the Brain&#8221; Biden?  Wow, we were sold that he was going to be the brains and experience to back up the Won;  instead, he&#8217;s the most frightening VP in my lifetime, a senile or stupid, lying venal goof, a real humanitarian who gives about 1% of his money to charity (i.e. a typical lib), and gives advice on how to shoot a shotgun and get indicted on murder charges.  </p>
<p>Palin did make some major league errors of being a naif when it came to the media and the disgusting politics of the national GOP.  But she&#8217;s been correct about the cronyism and corruption of the O admin that we&#8217;ve maybe NEVER seen in this country, was right about &#8220;death panels&#8221;, which will be the inevitable outcome of the NHS&#8230;oh, I mean, Obamacare&#8230;and she has hit the nail on the proverbial head about a great deal else.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a Palinista;  I recognized she did have some major problems as a candidate, but I still wish she were President and not the Leftist  lying SCOAMF we have in office now.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Palin is Not an Idiot &#124; David&#039;s Commonplace Book</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah Palin is Not an Idiot &#124; David&#039;s Commonplace Book</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Mar 2013 19:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: the other rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>the other rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Mar 2013 17:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Julie: 

Precisely. The way that the tosser also tried to throw the First Amendment under the bus rankled, too.

That said and with due deference to GaryS&#039; &quot;stopped clock&quot; comment, they do, on occasion, hit one out of the park (as I believe they say in relation to the American version of Rounders).

Case in point: An email recounting proceedings at one of that Feinstein woman&#039;s hearings, which contained this gem: &quot;Then, to the regret of every civil human being in the room, came Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.)&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie: </p>
<p>Precisely. The way that the tosser also tried to throw the First Amendment under the bus rankled, too.</p>
<p>That said and with due deference to GaryS&#8217; &#8220;stopped clock&#8221; comment, they do, on occasion, hit one out of the park (as I believe they say in relation to the American version of Rounders).</p>
<p>Case in point: An email recounting proceedings at one of that Feinstein woman&#8217;s hearings, which contained this gem: &#8220;Then, to the regret of every civil human being in the room, came Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.)&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: llamas</title>
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		<dc:creator>llamas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Mar 2013 00:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sunfish! There you are! Where the HELL have you been? Come back, all is forgiven.

llater,

llamas]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sunfish! There you are! Where the HELL have you been? Come back, all is forgiven.</p>
<p>llater,</p>
<p>llamas</p>
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