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	<title>Comments on: On the shame of the UK&#8217;s Met Office</title>
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		<title>By: Frank S</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2013/01/samizdata-quote-of-the-day-241/#comment-275545</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 23:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;In effect, the WWF has infiltrated the British government. Out in the open. In broad daylight. And nobody noticed.&quot;  So spake Donna Laframboise back in 2010.  Her interest was piqued by a Met Office lackey called Alex Hill declaring that he would not invest in the Scottish ski industry.  Nice for a civil servant to share his views like that.  More here: http://donnalaframboise.mensnewsdaily.com/2010/12/world-wildlife-fund-infiltrates-uk-government/.  The Met Office stinks.  And it has caused a great deal of harm in the UK in recent years. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In effect, the WWF has infiltrated the British government. Out in the open. In broad daylight. And nobody noticed.&#8221;  So spake Donna Laframboise back in 2010.  Her interest was piqued by a Met Office lackey called Alex Hill declaring that he would not invest in the Scottish ski industry.  Nice for a civil servant to share his views like that.  More here: <a href="http://donnalaframboise.mensnewsdaily.com/2010/12/world-wildlife-fund-infiltrates-uk-government/" rel="nofollow">http://donnalaframboise.mensnewsdaily.com/2010/12/world-wildlife-fund-infiltrates-uk-government/</a>.  The Met Office stinks.  And it has caused a great deal of harm in the UK in recent years. </p>
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		<title>By: veryretired</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2013/01/samizdata-quote-of-the-day-241/#comment-275540</link>
		<dc:creator>veryretired</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 23:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Collectivist ideologues love trojan horses. Far too much of the conventional wisdom about climate, or the environment in general, is actually collectivist ideology hiding behind a group of pseudo-scientific claims that there are crises which justify an unending series of state interventions in every aspect of our lives.

It is related to the same ruse that&#039;s been used for decades in economic matters---statist policies bring about economic problems, which are then blamed on the imperfections in the economic system, and then used as justifications for further state action.

In these as well as any number of other examples, when the collectivist policy intended to solve the problem fails, or makes it worse, as is invariably the case, then the worsened situation is immediately blamed on the economic systems&#039; deeper problems, and the solution is, of course, even more state control and programs.

They don&#039;t know what they&#039;re doing. They never have, as is amply demonstrated throughout history, and especially by the catastrophic events of the past century, when the exalted state ran rampant across the globe, leaving nothing but death and destruction behind it.

Anyone who is foolish enough to believe that ever increasing state powers are the only viable solution to any problem or problems, regardless of the alleged nature of the situation, has identified themselves as unqualified to offer any advice or direction to rational people.

The advocates of the state must be held to answer for the gruesome mistakes that position has already caused, before they dare to assert their fitness to direct society in the future.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Collectivist ideologues love trojan horses. Far too much of the conventional wisdom about climate, or the environment in general, is actually collectivist ideology hiding behind a group of pseudo-scientific claims that there are crises which justify an unending series of state interventions in every aspect of our lives.</p>
<p>It is related to the same ruse that&#8217;s been used for decades in economic matters&#8212;statist policies bring about economic problems, which are then blamed on the imperfections in the economic system, and then used as justifications for further state action.</p>
<p>In these as well as any number of other examples, when the collectivist policy intended to solve the problem fails, or makes it worse, as is invariably the case, then the worsened situation is immediately blamed on the economic systems&#8217; deeper problems, and the solution is, of course, even more state control and programs.</p>
<p>They don&#8217;t know what they&#8217;re doing. They never have, as is amply demonstrated throughout history, and especially by the catastrophic events of the past century, when the exalted state ran rampant across the globe, leaving nothing but death and destruction behind it.</p>
<p>Anyone who is foolish enough to believe that ever increasing state powers are the only viable solution to any problem or problems, regardless of the alleged nature of the situation, has identified themselves as unqualified to offer any advice or direction to rational people.</p>
<p>The advocates of the state must be held to answer for the gruesome mistakes that position has already caused, before they dare to assert their fitness to direct society in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2013/01/samizdata-quote-of-the-day-241/#comment-275442</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 16:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ho hum, looks like that settled consensus wasn&#039;t quite so settled after all.

Does this mean the Met Office are deniers and anti-science charlatans?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ho hum, looks like that settled consensus wasn&#8217;t quite so settled after all.</p>
<p>Does this mean the Met Office are deniers and anti-science charlatans?</p>
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		<title>By: Regional</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2013/01/samizdata-quote-of-the-day-241/#comment-275185</link>
		<dc:creator>Regional</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 01:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another scam is Outer Space Law, Google it for a laugh, and
A doyen of the Australian Left was deeply disappointed beings from outer space had not congratulated him on the job he was doing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another scam is Outer Space Law, Google it for a laugh, and<br />
A doyen of the Australian Left was deeply disappointed beings from outer space had not congratulated him on the job he was doing.</p>
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		<title>By: chuck</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2013/01/samizdata-quote-of-the-day-241/#comment-275177</link>
		<dc:creator>chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 00:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;they surely have a highly developed capacity to rationalize. &lt;/em&gt;

Yes indeed, brilliant people can bullshit themselves brilliantly, which is an indication of just how brilliant they truly are ;) Only Superman could have deflowered Supergirl, it&#039;s like that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>they surely have a highly developed capacity to rationalize. </em></p>
<p>Yes indeed, brilliant people can bullshit themselves brilliantly, which is an indication of just how brilliant they truly are <img src='http://www.samizdata.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  Only Superman could have deflowered Supergirl, it&#8217;s like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 00:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Old news.  
This is from 2009: 
&quot;How do you like the government agency that makes official climate predictions, and pushes industry and local government to act on “climate change” to be headed up by a green alarmist and activist? It’s well known that in the USA the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies is headed up by the climate alarmist and activist James Hansen, who encourages criminal misdemeanours in USA and criminal damage in UK. But what of the UK? The situation is even worse. The UK Meteorological Office, whose Hadley Centre runs the IPCC scientific assessment (“Working Group 1”), is now a department of the UK Ministry of Defence. And its Chairman is none other than Robert Napier, a green activist and alarmist with tentacles into some of the world’s most powerful drivers of climate alarmism and social control.&quot;

http://buythetruth.wordpress.com/2009/08/24/eco-imperialism-every-environmentalists-dream/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Old news.<br />
This is from 2009:<br />
&#8220;How do you like the government agency that makes official climate predictions, and pushes industry and local government to act on “climate change” to be headed up by a green alarmist and activist? It’s well known that in the USA the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies is headed up by the climate alarmist and activist James Hansen, who encourages criminal misdemeanours in USA and criminal damage in UK. But what of the UK? The situation is even worse. The UK Meteorological Office, whose Hadley Centre runs the IPCC scientific assessment (“Working Group 1”), is now a department of the UK Ministry of Defence. And its Chairman is none other than Robert Napier, a green activist and alarmist with tentacles into some of the world’s most powerful drivers of climate alarmism and social control.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://buythetruth.wordpress.com/2009/08/24/eco-imperialism-every-environmentalists-dream/" rel="nofollow">http://buythetruth.wordpress.com/2009/08/24/eco-imperialism-every-environmentalists-dream/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Julie near Chicago</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2013/01/samizdata-quote-of-the-day-241/#comment-275144</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie near Chicago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 23:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Second PFP!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Second PFP!</p>
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		<title>By: PersonFromPorlock</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2013/01/samizdata-quote-of-the-day-241/#comment-275139</link>
		<dc:creator>PersonFromPorlock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 23:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;
Mike James
January 14, 2013 at 10:18 pm
&lt;strong&gt;
I’m not about to be pushed around by someone who hasn’t got Albert Gore Jr. figured out yet.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

QOTD, please.]]></description>
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Mike James<br />
January 14, 2013 at 10:18 pm<br />
<strong><br />
I’m not about to be pushed around by someone who hasn’t got Albert Gore Jr. figured out yet.</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>QOTD, please.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie near Chicago</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2013/01/samizdata-quote-of-the-day-241/#comment-275137</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie near Chicago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 23:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike James,

&lt;blockquote&gt;Whether or not intellectuals are smarter than other people, they surely have a highly developed capacity to rationalize.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think that&#039;s quite an astute observation.  &quot;To rationalize&quot; is far from synonymous with &quot;to reason,&quot; as I once tried my darndest to point out to someone. Never thought to apply it to the intelligentsia. Amazing how obvious some things are when somebody else points them out. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike James,</p>
<blockquote><p>Whether or not intellectuals are smarter than other people, they surely have a highly developed capacity to rationalize.
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<p>I think that&#8217;s quite an astute observation.  &#8220;To rationalize&#8221; is far from synonymous with &#8220;to reason,&#8221; as I once tried my darndest to point out to someone. Never thought to apply it to the intelligentsia. Amazing how obvious some things are when somebody else points them out. <img src='http://www.samizdata.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Runcie Balspune</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2013/01/samizdata-quote-of-the-day-241/#comment-275136</link>
		<dc:creator>Runcie Balspune</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 23:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;These people aren’t smart enough to run our lives.&lt;/em&gt;

How true, even on their own &quot;energy saving&quot; philosophy they fail dismally, whilst depleting my wallet. As I dispose of yet another CFL I purchased less than 2 years ago, I often wonder why the smart money and subsidies didn&#039;t invest in the LEDs I have as replacements, which really do save energy by simply lasting longer. 

I liken my eco-overlords to those of the Chinese &quot;Great Leap Forward&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>These people aren’t smart enough to run our lives.</em></p>
<p>How true, even on their own &#8220;energy saving&#8221; philosophy they fail dismally, whilst depleting my wallet. As I dispose of yet another CFL I purchased less than 2 years ago, I often wonder why the smart money and subsidies didn&#8217;t invest in the LEDs I have as replacements, which really do save energy by simply lasting longer. </p>
<p>I liken my eco-overlords to those of the Chinese &#8220;Great Leap Forward&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike James</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2013/01/samizdata-quote-of-the-day-241/#comment-275112</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If I must engage a climate evangelist in religious debate, I try to keep it short, and tell him, &quot;No, we&#039;re not handing over control of the economy to your church.&quot; They can&#039;t get what they want without imposing a tyranny. They haven&#039;t even come close to making the case for dictatorship.

These people aren&#039;t smart enough to run our lives. Whether or not intellectuals are smarter than other people, they surely have a highly developed capacity to rationalize. They can be talked into any silly goddamned old idea, if the right appeals are made to their vanity.

I&#039;m not about to be pushed around by someone who hasn&#039;t got Albert Gore Jr. figured out yet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I must engage a climate evangelist in religious debate, I try to keep it short, and tell him, &#8220;No, we&#8217;re not handing over control of the economy to your church.&#8221; They can&#8217;t get what they want without imposing a tyranny. They haven&#8217;t even come close to making the case for dictatorship.</p>
<p>These people aren&#8217;t smart enough to run our lives. Whether or not intellectuals are smarter than other people, they surely have a highly developed capacity to rationalize. They can be talked into any silly goddamned old idea, if the right appeals are made to their vanity.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not about to be pushed around by someone who hasn&#8217;t got Albert Gore Jr. figured out yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank S</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2013/01/samizdata-quote-of-the-day-241/#comment-275107</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is indeed an institution that has been marched through right to the head of their governors when the chap who had previously wrecked the morals and swelled the coffers of the WWF took it upon himself to do the same for the Met Office by becoming Chairman there for six years.  He&#039;s gone now.  For a neat summary of the most recent deceits and legerdemain of the MO, see: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/01/14/has-the-met-office-committed-fraud/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is indeed an institution that has been marched through right to the head of their governors when the chap who had previously wrecked the morals and swelled the coffers of the WWF took it upon himself to do the same for the Met Office by becoming Chairman there for six years.  He&#8217;s gone now.  For a neat summary of the most recent deceits and legerdemain of the MO, see: <a href="http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/01/14/has-the-met-office-committed-fraud/" rel="nofollow">http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/01/14/has-the-met-office-committed-fraud/</a></p>
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