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	<title>Comments on: Climate change action: &#8220;The Science&#8221; gives way to &#8220;The Physics&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Saxon</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2013/01/climate-change-action-the-science-gives-way-to-the-physics/#comment-273267</link>
		<dc:creator>Saxon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 17:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://xkcd.com/356/

this gives more points to mathematicians than physicists.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://xkcd.com/356/" rel="nofollow">http://xkcd.com/356/</a></p>
<p>this gives more points to mathematicians than physicists.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Jennings</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2013/01/climate-change-action-the-science-gives-way-to-the-physics/#comment-272765</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Jennings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 13:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[God bless &lt;a href=&quot;http://xkcd.com/1158/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Physics&lt;/a&gt; (and also the alt text).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God bless <a href="http://xkcd.com/1158/" rel="nofollow">The Physics</a> (and also the alt text).</p>
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		<title>By: Laird</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2013/01/climate-change-action-the-science-gives-way-to-the-physics/#comment-272525</link>
		<dc:creator>Laird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 20:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To push your point a little farther, Sigivald, I don&#039;t think the models will &lt;i&gt;ever&lt;/i&gt; be predictive. That&#039;s the nature of truly chaotic systems, as I understand it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To push your point a little farther, Sigivald, I don&#8217;t think the models will <i>ever</i> be predictive. That&#8217;s the nature of truly chaotic systems, as I understand it.</p>
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		<title>By: Sigivald</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2013/01/climate-change-action-the-science-gives-way-to-the-physics/#comment-272474</link>
		<dc:creator>Sigivald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 17:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What Mr. Amon said.

We are, indeed, &quot;at the mercy of physics&quot;. The problem is that physics - that word he keeps using - doesn&#039;t mean what he thinks it means.

Or more accurately, the physics of the atmosphere don&#039;t work the way the models he wants (?) to be true so desperately &lt;I&gt;have them working&lt;/i&gt;.

Modeling climate is really hard, it turns out - and none of the models seem to be predictive, yet. Somehow, however, he keeps trusting them as if they&#039;re &quot;physics&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Mr. Amon said.</p>
<p>We are, indeed, &#8220;at the mercy of physics&#8221;. The problem is that physics &#8211; that word he keeps using &#8211; doesn&#8217;t mean what he thinks it means.</p>
<p>Or more accurately, the physics of the atmosphere don&#8217;t work the way the models he wants (?) to be true so desperately <i>have them working</i>.</p>
<p>Modeling climate is really hard, it turns out &#8211; and none of the models seem to be predictive, yet. Somehow, however, he keeps trusting them as if they&#8217;re &#8220;physics&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2013/01/climate-change-action-the-science-gives-way-to-the-physics/#comment-272386</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 12:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rob Fisher, here is Tyndall
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Tyndall]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob Fisher, here is Tyndall<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Tyndall" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Tyndall</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rob Fisher</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2013/01/climate-change-action-the-science-gives-way-to-the-physics/#comment-272384</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 12:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Doesn&#039;t The Physics say that temperature is a function of pressure? Are there any Actual Physicists who understand how CO2 causes radiative forcing? Serious questions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#8217;t The Physics say that temperature is a function of pressure? Are there any Actual Physicists who understand how CO2 causes radiative forcing? Serious questions.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Jennings (London)</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2013/01/climate-change-action-the-science-gives-way-to-the-physics/#comment-272193</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Jennings (London)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 00:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;ETLA&quot; is relatively easy to pronounce, though, I think.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;ETLA&#8221; is relatively easy to pronounce, though, I think.</p>
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		<title>By: Dom</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2013/01/climate-change-action-the-science-gives-way-to-the-physics/#comment-272172</link>
		<dc:creator>Dom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 22:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark, c.u.n.t.s is not recursive, since the word &quot;cunts&quot; does not need to be further defined.  A example of recursion is GNU, which means, &quot;gnu is not unix&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, c.u.n.t.s is not recursive, since the word &#8220;cunts&#8221; does not need to be further defined.  A example of recursion is GNU, which means, &#8220;gnu is not unix&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2013/01/climate-change-action-the-science-gives-way-to-the-physics/#comment-272156</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 22:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok, Frank S, you&#039;re right. These critters are everywhere!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, Frank S, you&#8217;re right. These critters are everywhere!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Green</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2013/01/climate-change-action-the-science-gives-way-to-the-physics/#comment-272154</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 21:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bloody auto-correct. 

Traceable, natch.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bloody auto-correct. </p>
<p>Traceable, natch.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Green</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2013/01/climate-change-action-the-science-gives-way-to-the-physics/#comment-272150</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 21:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@BIS - an ability to create tenuous regressions in Excel with laughably narrow error bars does not give Mr Connolley the right to call himself a programmer. Us programmers refer to people like that as C.U.N.T.S., or Cunts Utilising No Discernible Science. Amusingly, an excellent example of a metacronym, employing that other invaluable programming skill, recursion. 

Smite away.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@BIS &#8211; an ability to create tenuous regressions in Excel with laughably narrow error bars does not give Mr Connolley the right to call himself a programmer. Us programmers refer to people like that as C.U.N.T.S., or Cunts Utilising No Discernible Science. Amusingly, an excellent example of a metacronym, employing that other invaluable programming skill, recursion. </p>
<p>Smite away.</p>
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		<title>By: bloke in spain</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2013/01/climate-change-action-the-science-gives-way-to-the-physics/#comment-272124</link>
		<dc:creator>bloke in spain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 20:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jacob
Regrettably, this is one of yours:
http://scienceblogs.com/stoat/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Connolley
(Known to throw wobblers if not addressed as &#039;Doctor&#039; or his surname mispelt)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacob<br />
Regrettably, this is one of yours:<br />
<a href="http://scienceblogs.com/stoat/" rel="nofollow">http://scienceblogs.com/stoat/</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Connolley" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Connolley</a><br />
(Known to throw wobblers if not addressed as &#8216;Doctor&#8217; or his surname mispelt)</p>
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