But with the draconian anti-discrimination laws in employment, and increasingly in speech, there is forced integration and a perverse externalization of costs associated with immigration. When the paddy got out of the boat in Ellis Island, he couldn’t sue some honest textile owner in Brooklyn to give him a job because he was a “minority.” If he couldn’t make it, he’d take the boat home the next year.

Compared to now, when the entire establishment is hell bent on suppressing any discussion of negative effects from immigration. Anyone is entitled to free emergency room care, free public schooling, and affirmative action upon arriving. Then these poor people get recruited by ethnic activists in the left’s coalition to beat mean,old, racist white men with in the political arena. An ugly sight.

If they were all law-abiding tax-paying productive would-be citizens who were happy to integrate into our society, and had no intention of overturning and remaking it, then I would stop worrying.

I guess that “half the population of this typical New England state” in 1905 were exactly like that.

These days, in our open-ended and open-handed welfare state, with no qualification of any sort asked or expected before the handouts begin, and nobody ever removed no matter how heinous their behaviour, I am not so sure.

..Christian – 87.5%
….Roman Catholic – 63.6%
….Protestant – 21.6%
……..Episcopal – 8.1%
……..Baptist – 6.3%
……..Evangelical – 4%
……..other – 3.2%
….Other Christian – 2.3%
..Self-identified non-religious – 6%
..Other religions – 1.9%
….Jewish – 1.4%
….Muslim – 1.2%

It seems that the old feller back in 1912 got it right.

Capitalism and Free markets have their genesis in the white European West

Same can be said for Fascism and Communism. I don’t think Western Civilisation is quite what you think it is.

In the real world restricting immigration is an unfortunate but necessary step in preserving a culture of free-markets and liberty. Unfortunately it is probably too late anyway; the floodgates have already been opened, and we now have a died in the wool Marxist in the white house.

Hispanics, Blacks, and Jews are all reliable democrat / socialist voters. An open borders, multiculturalist ideology has been pushed relentlessly by the left as a way of attacking the foundations of Western civilisation upon which capitalism and liberty are built.

Perry, everything in your world must be either black or white. Romney isn’t a perfect candidate therefore the fact that 70% of Hispanics support a socialist for president is immaterial.

Because it *is* immaterial. Oh I agree everything is not black or white but Romney represents more-of-the-same, just a bit less of it than Obama. That is the elephant-in-the-room.

Romney is a tax-and-spend Republican who will at very best take the USA back to the bloated state George Bush was responsible for (and face it, we all know nothing even close to that degree of retrenchment is actually going to happen) and so unless you support tax-and-spend policies, there is simply no one to vote for. If Hispanics tend to vote for Democrat statism rather than Republican statism, can you understand why I cannot really get all too swept up by the horror of it all?

You say Obama is a ‘socialist’. Well sure he is, but the majority (as in almost all) of the ‘socialist’ programmes he presides over will still be there when Romney is (maybe) in the White House and they will still be there when Romney leaves the White House. ObamaCare will go and some sort of RomneyCare Redux will replace it. w00t.

And why is that? Because the people of mostly white European decent who dominate (and indeed vote for) the Republican Party are hardly any less statist than ‘socialist’ Obama and the people who vote for him.

If the Tea Party even actually becomes the Republican Party, that might not be true, but the mere fact Mitt RomneyCare is the alternative to Obama shows, there is no ‘alternative’ on offer, just various packages of the same foetid crap masquerading as ‘choice’.