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		<title>By: Olympic games accommodation</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2011/09/rental-properti/#comment-225135</link>
		<dc:creator>Olympic games accommodation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 10:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[it is very beautiful and  nice  site.This is a great article to remind all bloggers .this is a very great and nice  article.Hotels in London. From flight transfers, to fun days out, we will take care of everything so that when you come to enjoy the Olympic games accommodation you don&#039;t have to worry about a thing.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is very beautiful and  nice  site.This is a great article to remind all bloggers .this is a very great and nice  article.Hotels in London. From flight transfers, to fun days out, we will take care of everything so that when you come to enjoy the Olympic games accommodation you don&#8217;t have to worry about a thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Antoine Clarke</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2011/09/rental-properti/#comment-225134</link>
		<dc:creator>Antoine Clarke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2011 17:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can rent out my flat just outside Paris for as much money as anyone is willing to pay, for as short a period of time as I wish.

No doubt the French government COULD pass a law doing what the City of Westminster has done.

But it hasn&#039;t, and surely wouldn&#039;t if the Olympics had been awarded to Paris.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can rent out my flat just outside Paris for as much money as anyone is willing to pay, for as short a period of time as I wish.</p>
<p>No doubt the French government COULD pass a law doing what the City of Westminster has done.</p>
<p>But it hasn&#8217;t, and surely wouldn&#8217;t if the Olympics had been awarded to Paris.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Marks</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2011/09/rental-properti/#comment-225133</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Marks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 16:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How to have a free country.

First have a good laws (laws that establish the principle of justice - i.e. to each their own) and ENFORCE them.

But also prevent these laws be changed on whims - either by &quot;interpreting&quot; judges, or by governments simply passing statutes or regulations that undermine the basic limits on government power (the protections of civil society).

Changing the fundemental laws should be a profound process - difficult and lengthy.

Otherwise freedom will just be a passing phase - to be swept away by changing fashions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How to have a free country.</p>
<p>First have a good laws (laws that establish the principle of justice &#8211; i.e. to each their own) and ENFORCE them.</p>
<p>But also prevent these laws be changed on whims &#8211; either by &#8220;interpreting&#8221; judges, or by governments simply passing statutes or regulations that undermine the basic limits on government power (the protections of civil society).</p>
<p>Changing the fundemental laws should be a profound process &#8211; difficult and lengthy.</p>
<p>Otherwise freedom will just be a passing phase &#8211; to be swept away by changing fashions.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Marks</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2011/09/rental-properti/#comment-225132</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Marks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 15:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Errr Antoine remember how the French Civil Code may be trumped by any government statute (just like English Common Law).

For example, the &quot;Code du Travail&quot; adopted in France in 1912, the first major step away from the free labour market of the old code.

So a better description would be.....

English Common Law - zero.

French Code Law - also zero.

Neither prevents the government creating new laws - even once that blatently contradict the old laws.

Where government can rip up the, basic, laws - then freedom is (at best) provisional.

It exists till anti freedom whims come to influence government policy.

&quot;But where can government not do this?&quot;

Now?

No where.

That is the problem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Errr Antoine remember how the French Civil Code may be trumped by any government statute (just like English Common Law).</p>
<p>For example, the &#8220;Code du Travail&#8221; adopted in France in 1912, the first major step away from the free labour market of the old code.</p>
<p>So a better description would be&#8230;..</p>
<p>English Common Law &#8211; zero.</p>
<p>French Code Law &#8211; also zero.</p>
<p>Neither prevents the government creating new laws &#8211; even once that blatently contradict the old laws.</p>
<p>Where government can rip up the, basic, laws &#8211; then freedom is (at best) provisional.</p>
<p>It exists till anti freedom whims come to influence government policy.</p>
<p>&#8220;But where can government not do this?&#8221;</p>
<p>Now?</p>
<p>No where.</p>
<p>That is the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Alisa</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2011/09/rental-properti/#comment-225131</link>
		<dc:creator>Alisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 12:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And where do you live, Choey? Just curious...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And where do you live, Choey? Just curious&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Choey</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2011/09/rental-properti/#comment-225130</link>
		<dc:creator>Choey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 00:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who are these people who keep doing these things to you?  Are they elected?  Do you keep reelecting them?  Why don&#039;t they get voted out?

Just curious..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who are these people who keep doing these things to you?  Are they elected?  Do you keep reelecting them?  Why don&#8217;t they get voted out?</p>
<p>Just curious..</p>
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		<title>By: Laird</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2011/09/rental-properti/#comment-225129</link>
		<dc:creator>Laird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 18:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting to note (once again) how the Civil Law requires affirmative approval to do something (i.e., the implicit starting point is that &lt;em&gt;everything&lt;/em&gt; is prohibited unless expressly permitted), whereas the Common Law takes the opposite approach and presumes that you can do &lt;em&gt;anything&lt;/em&gt; unless it violates some positive law. I used to think that the Common Law approach was superior. Silly me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting to note (once again) how the Civil Law requires affirmative approval to do something (i.e., the implicit starting point is that <em>everything</em> is prohibited unless expressly permitted), whereas the Common Law takes the opposite approach and presumes that you can do <em>anything</em> unless it violates some positive law. I used to think that the Common Law approach was superior. Silly me.</p>
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		<title>By: Antoine Clarke</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2011/09/rental-properti/#comment-225128</link>
		<dc:creator>Antoine Clarke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 16:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just looked up the legislation in France. I can&#039;t see anything that would prohibit &quot;location saisoniere&quot; provided the place meets normal rental requirements (mostly to do with fire hazards).

In fact, for seasonal lettings, such as for the Olympics or university students during term time, the only regulations are from article 1713 of the Civil Code (not very good translation here http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/html/codes_traduits/code_civil_textA.htm):

&quot;One may rent all kinds of property, movables and immovables.&quot; 

The following articles state how courts must act if there is a dispute over an unwritten agreement, and specify that sub-letting is always allowed, unless specifically prohibited in the original contract.

French codified law 1, English Common law 0.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just looked up the legislation in France. I can&#8217;t see anything that would prohibit &#8220;location saisoniere&#8221; provided the place meets normal rental requirements (mostly to do with fire hazards).</p>
<p>In fact, for seasonal lettings, such as for the Olympics or university students during term time, the only regulations are from article 1713 of the Civil Code (not very good translation here <a href="http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/html/codes_traduits/code_civil_textA.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/html/codes_traduits/code_civil_textA.htm</a>):</p>
<p>&#8220;One may rent all kinds of property, movables and immovables.&#8221; </p>
<p>The following articles state how courts must act if there is a dispute over an unwritten agreement, and specify that sub-letting is always allowed, unless specifically prohibited in the original contract.</p>
<p>French codified law 1, English Common law 0.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Marks</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2011/09/rental-properti/#comment-225127</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Marks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 15:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So now it is a crime to let out your house of flat for a couple of weeks.

Just when I think things can not possibly get any more demented - they do.

As for targets....

Yes there are &quot;targets&quot; and &quot;plans&quot; concerning everything.

This is BRITAIN.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So now it is a crime to let out your house of flat for a couple of weeks.</p>
<p>Just when I think things can not possibly get any more demented &#8211; they do.</p>
<p>As for targets&#8230;.</p>
<p>Yes there are &#8220;targets&#8221; and &#8220;plans&#8221; concerning everything.</p>
<p>This is BRITAIN.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Fisher</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2011/09/rental-properti/#comment-225126</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 14:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are population targets? I found out recently that there are &lt;a href=&quot;http://www3.hants.gov.uk/hantswebnews/240510&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;sand and gravel extraction targets&lt;/a&gt;. What is wrong with people?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are population targets? I found out recently that there are <a href="http://www3.hants.gov.uk/hantswebnews/240510" rel="nofollow">sand and gravel extraction targets</a>. What is wrong with people?</p>
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		<title>By: Roue le Jour</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2011/09/rental-properti/#comment-225125</link>
		<dc:creator>Roue le Jour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 13:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;They use it all the time to extend the tentacles of their control to all sorts of things that &quot;planning&quot; was never intended to cover.&lt;/em&gt;

They use &quot;Conservation Area&quot; in the same way. I attempted to lease a shop many years ago and found that a perfectly ordinary run of about half a dozen buildings, no different from those either side or opposite, had been designated such simply so the council could exert greater authority over what businesses were allowed to trade there.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>They use it all the time to extend the tentacles of their control to all sorts of things that &#8220;planning&#8221; was never intended to cover.</em></p>
<p>They use &#8220;Conservation Area&#8221; in the same way. I attempted to lease a shop many years ago and found that a perfectly ordinary run of about half a dozen buildings, no different from those either side or opposite, had been designated such simply so the council could exert greater authority over what businesses were allowed to trade there.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Duffin</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2011/09/rental-properti/#comment-225124</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Duffin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 12:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Chris, I wondered that too.

The central problem seems to be that councils can decide for themselves what activities or actions require planning permission. No doubt there is some catch-all provision in the law, which allows them to do this.

They use it all the time to extend the tentacles of their control to all sorts of things that &quot;planning&quot; was never intended to cover.

It&#039;s time they were stopped, but of course we have a local administration which is determined to extend and enforce central control of everything, so they won&#039;t be stopped.

Authoritarianism rules OK!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chris, I wondered that too.</p>
<p>The central problem seems to be that councils can decide for themselves what activities or actions require planning permission. No doubt there is some catch-all provision in the law, which allows them to do this.</p>
<p>They use it all the time to extend the tentacles of their control to all sorts of things that &#8220;planning&#8221; was never intended to cover.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time they were stopped, but of course we have a local administration which is determined to extend and enforce central control of everything, so they won&#8217;t be stopped.</p>
<p>Authoritarianism rules OK!</p>
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