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		<title>By: mehere</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2011/01/for-action-movi/#comment-216075</link>
		<dc:creator>mehere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2011 22:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Junk. 

Spectacular junk, but that&#039;s all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Junk. </p>
<p>Spectacular junk, but that&#8217;s all.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Marks</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2011/01/for-action-movi/#comment-216074</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Marks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2011 21:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Laird you fell for a Star Trek trap.

Stung by protests that Star Trek (especially New Generation) was wildly pro statists - with all economic needs taken care of by the Federation government, and businessmen (when presented at all) presented as evil - and normally alien.....

The makers of the show came up with a collectivist foe.

But it is the old collectivist line - &quot;we OPPOSE the destruction of the individual personality, we just want ......&quot;

Karl Marx said the same thing (as did so many others) - economic collectivism would lead to &quot;true freedom&quot; where the individual could fully realize his or her potential and explore their minds (and so on).

In short - The Borg (and so on) are a diversion, from the basic point.

India - J.P. is right, there has been economic growth PEOPLE ARE BETTER OFF THAN THEY WERE.

I explained why - and I also explained how and why it will be undermined and destroyed.

As for the film.

O.K. an individual hero against a corrupt system.

Good as far as it goes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laird you fell for a Star Trek trap.</p>
<p>Stung by protests that Star Trek (especially New Generation) was wildly pro statists &#8211; with all economic needs taken care of by the Federation government, and businessmen (when presented at all) presented as evil &#8211; and normally alien&#8230;..</p>
<p>The makers of the show came up with a collectivist foe.</p>
<p>But it is the old collectivist line &#8211; &#8220;we OPPOSE the destruction of the individual personality, we just want &#8230;&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Karl Marx said the same thing (as did so many others) &#8211; economic collectivism would lead to &#8220;true freedom&#8221; where the individual could fully realize his or her potential and explore their minds (and so on).</p>
<p>In short &#8211; The Borg (and so on) are a diversion, from the basic point.</p>
<p>India &#8211; J.P. is right, there has been economic growth PEOPLE ARE BETTER OFF THAN THEY WERE.</p>
<p>I explained why &#8211; and I also explained how and why it will be undermined and destroyed.</p>
<p>As for the film.</p>
<p>O.K. an individual hero against a corrupt system.</p>
<p>Good as far as it goes.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnathan Pearce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnathan Pearce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2011 16:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&#039;Another sign, by the way, of India&#039;s economic prowess, I think. &#039; Not really. It&#039;s another sign of the economic power of some people in India. If India had &#039;economic prowess&#039; it wouldn&#039;t have 80% of its population living on less than 2$ per day.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Nope. I did not say that all of India was strong, merely that the country is rising fast in wealth terms and that that country&#039;s movie industry, among other things, is proof of that. The fact that a large number of folk do not yet share in that wealth does not disprove that point. In Victorian Britain, large numbers of poor people existed, but that did not mean the country was not moving upwards.

My point stands. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8216;Another sign, by the way, of India&#8217;s economic prowess, I think. &#8216; Not really. It&#8217;s another sign of the economic power of some people in India. If India had &#8216;economic prowess&#8217; it wouldn&#8217;t have 80% of its population living on less than 2$ per day.</p></blockquote>
<p>Nope. I did not say that all of India was strong, merely that the country is rising fast in wealth terms and that that country&#8217;s movie industry, among other things, is proof of that. The fact that a large number of folk do not yet share in that wealth does not disprove that point. In Victorian Britain, large numbers of poor people existed, but that did not mean the country was not moving upwards.</p>
<p>My point stands. </p>
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		<title>By: Tim Carpenter (Libertarian Party)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Carpenter (Libertarian Party)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2011 10:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Loved it. 

I mean, if you are a Robot or mad computer trying for domination, just don&#039;t bother to try in India - those guys will hack into you and make you beg for your electrons in no time at all...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loved it. </p>
<p>I mean, if you are a Robot or mad computer trying for domination, just don&#8217;t bother to try in India &#8211; those guys will hack into you and make you beg for your electrons in no time at all&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Laird</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2011 05:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Midwesterner, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borg_(Star_Trek)&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Borg&lt;/a&gt; were the supreme villains in the Star Trek TV series, and they were the ultimate collective. (&quot;You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.&quot;) I suppose that was a metaphor for the old Soviet Union or something, but to my recollection nobody made much of that.  But perhaps my memory is faulty.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Midwesterner, the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borg_(Star_Trek)" rel="nofollow">Borg</a> were the supreme villains in the Star Trek TV series, and they were the ultimate collective. (&#8220;You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.&#8221;) I suppose that was a metaphor for the old Soviet Union or something, but to my recollection nobody made much of that.  But perhaps my memory is faulty.</p>
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		<title>By: Alisa</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2011/01/for-action-movi/#comment-216070</link>
		<dc:creator>Alisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jan 2011 16:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wonder what you would &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzrUqAtUcpU&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;make &lt;/a&gt;of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/3530822107858507037/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this &lt;/a&gt;then, Mid. I&#039;ve only noticed the lyrics today for the first time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder what you would <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzrUqAtUcpU" rel="nofollow">make </a>of <a href="http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/3530822107858507037/" rel="nofollow">this </a>then, Mid. I&#8217;ve only noticed the lyrics today for the first time.</p>
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		<title>By: Midwesterner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Midwesterner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jan 2011 15:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Call it hammers and nails, or better, confirmation bias, but am I the only one who saw a strong anti-collectivism metaphor presented in the most literal way?  How often do we get to see arch-typical collectives portrayed as an evil villain and then defeated?

I know.  I think to much. &lt;em&gt; &quot;It&#039;s just a movie.  Lighten up.&quot; &lt;/em&gt;  I hear that a lot, but usually for seeing pro-collectivism themes and metaphors in movies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Call it hammers and nails, or better, confirmation bias, but am I the only one who saw a strong anti-collectivism metaphor presented in the most literal way?  How often do we get to see arch-typical collectives portrayed as an evil villain and then defeated?</p>
<p>I know.  I think to much. <em> &#8220;It&#8217;s just a movie.  Lighten up.&#8221; </em>  I hear that a lot, but usually for seeing pro-collectivism themes and metaphors in movies.</p>
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		<title>By: CountingCats</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2011/01/for-action-movi/#comment-216068</link>
		<dc:creator>CountingCats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jan 2011 11:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry JP, but what a load of tosh. Stopped watching half way through.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry JP, but what a load of tosh. Stopped watching half way through.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Marks</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2011/01/for-action-movi/#comment-216067</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Marks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jan 2011 18:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[India - land of vast economic growth since deregulation (the end, or at least reduction of, the &quot;Permit Raj&quot;).

However, India is also now the land of vast growing welfare schemes - which will bankrupt the country.

None of the voices on NDTV (English language Indian news) ever oppose these vast schemes.

There was supposedly a &quot;debate&quot; about Indian government policy today (in Davos), but having seen who was taking part in the &quot;debate&quot; I turned off.

As always with NDTV, they were all Welfare Statists.

Of course there is also the little problem of the two wars - one against the Islamists, the other against the Maoists.

Wars that go virtually unreported in the West - but which kill Indians every day.

The Maoists are helped by Indian land law - which allows the Indian government to (seemingly at will) take land and hand it over to private companies (remember a certain Supreme Court case in the United States.....).

Surprise, surprise, villagers do not like have their land stolen.

Also, even if the villagers are anti Maoist, they have to submit - due to &quot;gun control&quot;.

It is illegal for ordinary people to own firearms without permission you see - so when the Maoists (or the Islamists) come....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>India &#8211; land of vast economic growth since deregulation (the end, or at least reduction of, the &#8220;Permit Raj&#8221;).</p>
<p>However, India is also now the land of vast growing welfare schemes &#8211; which will bankrupt the country.</p>
<p>None of the voices on NDTV (English language Indian news) ever oppose these vast schemes.</p>
<p>There was supposedly a &#8220;debate&#8221; about Indian government policy today (in Davos), but having seen who was taking part in the &#8220;debate&#8221; I turned off.</p>
<p>As always with NDTV, they were all Welfare Statists.</p>
<p>Of course there is also the little problem of the two wars &#8211; one against the Islamists, the other against the Maoists.</p>
<p>Wars that go virtually unreported in the West &#8211; but which kill Indians every day.</p>
<p>The Maoists are helped by Indian land law &#8211; which allows the Indian government to (seemingly at will) take land and hand it over to private companies (remember a certain Supreme Court case in the United States&#8230;..).</p>
<p>Surprise, surprise, villagers do not like have their land stolen.</p>
<p>Also, even if the villagers are anti Maoist, they have to submit &#8211; due to &#8220;gun control&#8221;.</p>
<p>It is illegal for ordinary people to own firearms without permission you see &#8211; so when the Maoists (or the Islamists) come&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: JSC</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2011/01/for-action-movi/#comment-216066</link>
		<dc:creator>JSC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jan 2011 17:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah &lt;a&gt;Aishwarya Rai&lt;/a&gt;. . . Even when she just has to stand around and look surprised or scared the screen lights up.

Hard to believe she&#039;s 37.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah <a>Aishwarya Rai</a>. . . Even when she just has to stand around and look surprised or scared the screen lights up.</p>
<p>Hard to believe she&#8217;s 37.</p>
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		<title>By: PersonFromPorlock</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2011/01/for-action-movi/#comment-216065</link>
		<dc:creator>PersonFromPorlock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jan 2011 17:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Busby Berkeley, please call the office!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Busby Berkeley, please call the office!</p>
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		<title>By: michael farris</title>
		<link>http://www.samizdata.net/2011/01/for-action-movi/#comment-216064</link>
		<dc:creator>michael farris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jan 2011 16:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Douglas2, Thanks for saving me the effort.

I love South Indian movies, they make overblown Bollywood fare seem like Jane Austen adaptations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Douglas2, Thanks for saving me the effort.</p>
<p>I love South Indian movies, they make overblown Bollywood fare seem like Jane Austen adaptations.</p>
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