In my deranged sociopathic obsession I don’t just want any old gun nuts weapons…I want yours and yours alone.

So I repeat…post your name and address.

What have you got to be afraid of…the second amendment will protect you…

In my deranged sociopathic obsession I don’t just want any old gun nuts weapons…I want yours and yours alone.

So I repeat…post your name and address.

What have you got to be afraid of…the second amendment will protect you…

However luckily I live in a state with particulary lax gun control laws so now I can work through these issues by taking you up on your kind offer and brutally murdering you and your family
God Bless America

Posted by dunderheid at July 5, 2010 10:28 AM

mac:

Show me how big and brave you really are…

Post your real name and address….

Posted by dunderheid at July 5, 2010 01:37 PM

Can you believe this?

Actually, it’s very believable. Your standard liberal gun grabber is very likely to be a sociopathic murderer.

Take the Chicago gun law that the USSC overturned in the MacDonald case. It’s chief proponent was Fred Roti. He was an influential alderman. He was also the son of Bruno Roti and a made member of the Chicago mob.

What are British friends may not be aware of is just how mobbed up Chicago is. It is run by the mafia. Or as it is locally known, the Outfit.

Since 1970 the federal government has sent 27 Chicago aldermen to prison. They have actually charged 30 with crimes, but one died before trial and 2 await trial. Over 1,000 Illinois state or local officials have been imprisoned in that same time period.

Including William Hanhardt. He was the corrupt chief of detectives installed in the Chicago police department by mobster/alderman Roti. And who pled guilty to racketeering in 1999.

Got that? Not just convicted. Admitted to being guilty of racketeering.

These are the people who advocate disarmament. Gangsters. Now these Cook County pols are in the White House, and run the DoJ. Oh, look! They just dismissed what Bartle Bull (JFK civil rights attorney) called the most blatant case of voter intimidation he’s ever witnessed.

Unlike our criminal neighbors, I am an adherent to a civil society. So I moved to one. Texas.

I was at a social function a few months back. The governor was speaking.

There was no prescription against weapons. Anybody who was legally qualified to wear weapons could attend.

And the governor was entirely safe. Because he was not outgunned, as we playfully joked with his Texas Ranger security detail. Every gun there, whether they voted for him or non, would have been on his side. Naturally, nothing happend.

That’s what civilization is. You could trust a civilized man with a howitzer.

It is an an admission of failure at that endeavour when you call for citizens to be disarmed. Or deliberate sabotage of the condition, as in the case of Chicago.

Not only are you a gutless coward, you’re truly stupid as well. If you really want to die quickly, Second Amendment supporters are all around you, fool. Any one of them would be happy to blow your head off if you came to their home attempting to take their guns away. Try your “brutal murder” on any one of them, wanker. Save the travel expenses for your relatives to bury you with.

Show me how big and brave you really are…

Post your real name and address….

I’d be more worried about Pee Wee Herman, you whelp. Now go whimper in a corner somewhere because the big bad man insulted you.

Message taken and understood.

Unfortunately your message has stirred up, what were until now undiagnosed, uncontrollable psychotic urges (perhaps my tag is aptly named if understated).

However luckily I live in a state with particulary lax gun control laws so now I can work through these issues by taking you up on your kind offer and brutally murdering you and your family

God Bless America

However if you are given the right to protect yourself buy possessing guns then everyone has to be given that right. That would include people who wish to use those guns for nefarious purposes. Then in order not to be left behind in this miniature arms race I have to get a gun to protect me and my family. Suddenly I’m in the position that because of other peoples desire to exercise their right, my right “not to spend the rest of my life in a position where i might have to kill someone” is removed.

What you’re saying is that you want to take away everyone’s rights because some people misuse them. In your infinite wisdom you’ll collectively punish everyone and make all other law-abiding citizens much more vulnerable. Your justification for this will be the misdeeds of criminals whose actions law-abiding citizens neither approved nor could control. The righteous will be forced to pay the same price as the criminals, the fact that the criminals won’t obey this law notwithstanding.

Right. You’re completely and thoroughly understood. Let me make sure you get a completely unambiguous response as well:

GO FUCK YOURSELF!

You want my guns, you gutless, cowardly, aptly-tagged bastard, come get them.

Not at all, dunderhead. The very fact that you and your neighbors have the freedom to get a gun and use it in self defense means that criminals have no expectation that you are NOT armed and thus are less likely to attempt to commit crimes against you and your neighbors. Lefties like yourself should understand this sort of “penumbra defense” concept.

I live in New Hampshire, which is quite liberal in its firearms laws, or rather the lack thereof. I can carry a gun anywhere other than a courtroom, and am guaranteed a concealed weapons permit, and can own machine guns, silencers, etc. South of NH is Massachusetts, which is significantly more fascist in its gun laws and as a result has significantly higher crime rates since criminals there know that most people there are not armed.

We occasionally get the random Massachusetts gang banger coming north of the border trying to start something, usually only to find out that most of us are armed and usually better armed than the typical gang banger, much to the gang bangers detriment. Most gang bangers are smart enough to stay south of the border where the prey is much easier to come by.

An armed populace does more than deter crime, they exercise evolution in action. At some point you’ve weeded out 99.99% of the bad seeds and life is far more safe than living in an unarmed state.

‘If you have an LLC or a trust buy the firearm, you do not need a Sheriff’s signature.’
This is another one. Go ahead and try it. I’ve already been told that by class III dealers, if you have a full auto ( or destructive device to you nitpickers ) don’t go into you own backyard without the paperwork. Is it legal to go into your own backyard without the paperwork ? Sure. That DOES NOT mean you’re not in for a possible load of grief – ie time consuming and possibly expensive.

Why are you such an evangelist for the cause of cowering in the corner for fear of what someone else MIGHT do? Has anybody ever ended up in FPMITA prison for going outside and leaving their Form 1 in the safe? And are you seriously suggesting that a reasonable response to NOPD’s illegal gun seizure is to not own guns in the first place?

Dunderhead:

Contracting defensive use of force out to ‘professionals’ is a recipe for problems.

I’m one of those ‘professionals,’ western US version. I like to think that I’m no lazier nor less-competent than the average. And I still can’t be everywhere at once (and am too fat for you to carry under your jacket.)

And when seconds count, I’m only minutes away.

Paul:
Some of the worst border incursions have been people armed with Heckler and Koch G-3 or G-36 rifles: the two models which have been issued to the Mexican Army in the last decade. And carried by people wearing Mexican army uniforms, and driving trucks painted in Mexican army patterrns.

There was at least one raid on a gang’s weapons cache that resulted in a photo op. It was deliberately set up so that weapons not of US manufacture (a dozen or so AK-47′s, a few of the goofy looking FN bullpup rifles, and at least one Russian-made RPK crew-served machine gun) were not shown.

There are a few very small scale US makers of Kalashnikov-pattern rifles. They tend to be expensive boutique items, not something likely to be exported from the US in any real quantity, not when the same thing can be bought from Romania for a tenth the price. But the narrative is that ‘loose’ US gun laws are all that stands between Mexico-as-it-is-today and Mexico-as-an-Edenic-paradise, and the average reporter probably doesn’t know the difference anyway.[1]

I’m not sayin’, I’m just sayin.’ I have my own misgivings about Arizona’s new law[2] but it was passed in response to a real problem.

[1] journalistic SOP: if it can be fired one-handed, it’s a Glock. If it takes two hands, it’s an AK-47.

[2] Not really germane to the thread

(This may also explain why straight men react to gay ones so badly.)

The main thing to keep in mind is that the Much Derided Object has not two functions, but three.