Comments on: The foolishness of half measures when dealing with power obsessed people

By: TMLutas

TMLutas — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 09:11:59 +0000

The Hondurans have given Brazil 10 days before they decertify their embassy, make them take down their flag and national shield, take Zelaya into custody, and then send a polite letter asking for the re-establishment of diplomatic relations. I find this a decent middle course, one that recognizes the basic geopolitical fact that Honduras is a fly to Brazil’s elephant. Certain forms need to be honored.

Honduras has no death penalty. The interim government is doing its best to stick to that principle and I salute them for it. This makes things inconvenient for them but it is certainly an improvement over past practice.

Unless Brazil grants asylum to Zelaya and evacuates him to Brazil, Zelaya will be standing trial for treason in a Honduran court before very much longer. From there, I suspect a long prison sentence is in his future.

This appears to be the way that Hondurans want to handle their own internal affairs. Our best move from outside is to support their right to handle those internal affairs.

By: Alisa

Alisa — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:06:57 +0000

Dishman: well, yes, but what practical conclusion can this possibly lead to?

By: Dishman

Dishman — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:58:10 +0000

I’ve been thinking about this…
and it seems to me that Brazil is engaged in an act of war against Honduras, using its embassy as basis for said act.

By: Paul Marks

Paul Marks — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:07:51 +0000

Gadfly of Libya, Dinner-Jacket of Iran, Fat-Pig of Venezuela were all at the U.N. and often announcing cooperation with each other – for example Dinner-Jacket is going to help Fat-Pig with Venezuela’s nuclear schemes. And Russia and China will sell all of them anything they want (even if they do not have the money to pay – anything to cause terror in the world). By the way Dinner-Jacket was pronounced most “reasonable” by the Associated Press “journalist” who talked to him and by the other creatures of the “mainstream” media (very main stream – only about 90% of Americans have now worked out that the media was pro Obama during the election, although 41% of Americans still go along with some of Obama’s polices such as the health care “reform” Bill).

Islamic socialism, or athiest Marxist socialism- it is all collectivism, and they will only turn on each other when we are all dead or enslaved. Till then they will cooperte – as the leaders of such movements have cooperated for years such places as the Hyde Park district of Chicago (where so many of the leaders in the United States have homes).

And Barry Obama?

He blended right in – and the other collectivists praised him and clapped and clapped.

How did the West come to this?

By: Alisa

Alisa — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:03:42 +0000

PBUH.

By: Vinegar Joe

Vinegar Joe — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:30:35 +0000

“Of course, one could make that comment about quite a few of the alleged world leaders strutting around the UN and babbling about their inner visions lately.”

Hey!!! Don’t talk about President Obama like that!

;^)

By: veryretired

veryretired — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 03:57:14 +0000

Judging from some of the tin foil hat nonsense this bozo has been going on about, i.e., “radiation waves” and Israeli assassins and all, it may just be that a straight jacket and some thorazine are more justified than a bullet.

Of course, one could make that comment about quite a few of the alleged world leaders strutting around the UN and babbling about their inner visions lately.

I wonder if there’s enough psycho-dope around to juice them all up. We could put them in Monty Python’s nut house with all the other goofs who think they’re Richard III.

By: Samizdata Illuminatus

Samizdata Illuminatus — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 22:00:39 +0000

We are talking about what may well be the lead up to a civil war and most certain is the lead up to a coup d’etat… I don’t think “inconvenient or troublesome people” quite fits the plot of this particular drama.

By: Vinegar Joe

Vinegar Joe — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:34:49 +0000

Lots of people happy to shoot inconvenient or troublesome people here. Sorry, but there are a lot of people in this world who need shooting.

By: Sunfish

Sunfish — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:21:41 +0000

Alexandros:

He should be executed for the utilitarian reason that he will be a real danger to all of his former countrymen as long as he lives

Samizdata Illuminatus:

Then could you tell me on what law the execution of the former president would be based?

Law? What does law have to do with it?

Thomas:

Hear, hear. He’s a traitor. They tried exile, he came back. Shoot him.

Lots of people happy to shoot inconvenient or troublesome people here.

By: PersonFromPorlock

PersonFromPorlock — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:52:10 +0000

RRS: I sometimes refer to your “Know Betters” as “The Elect,” thus honoring the direct descent of Liberalism from Puritanism.

By: Kevin B

Kevin B — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:38:27 +0000

I’ve always been in favour of a Mussolini style ending for deposed tyrants, though a CeauŠŸescu type balcony moment gives added flavour.