Even on defence spending, John McCain attacked and attacked over the last eight years.

And, of course, both Senator Biden and Senator Obama have long claimed that President Bush has not spent enough (on everything).

Biden and Obama are two of the biggest tax-and-spend people in the Senate.

It is terrible at a time when almost 80% of the voters think government is too big, these two big government fanatics are about to be elected.

As for the neocons who are attacking the McCain campaign – these are the same neocons (Fred Barnes and so on) that advised him to accept the bailout (the real cause of McCain’s problems in the polls).

It is fine for Obama to support the bailout – his campaign was not built on opposing wild government spending and politically connected special interests (quite the contrary).

But it was death for McCain to support the bailout – and it was the neocons who screamed that the sky would fall in if he did not support it.

Note to all Republicans – keep well clear of the neocons, they are poison.

I agree entirely with this. What it tells me is in spite of my gripes (objective or mostly subjective) with one, the other, both candidates or Palin, one must not attribute to them the ability to decimate the US and certainly the world. After all, they do not get it. Or is there a conspiracy that I do not see?

To paraphrase a movie version of Wyatt Earp, he’s just not a deliberate man.

You’re too quick to bash a man.

Seriously, though, Rachel Lucas had the same idea I did. She’s brilliant, I tells ya.

John K asked, about Dear Leader,

Is he actually planning to gather power for himself though?

I wish I knew. Although I’m slowly drifting around to Paul Marks’ idea that Obama hasn’t abandoned his Marxist upbringing.

Mid,

Wow, Sunfish! You must have an incredible hang over plus some serious liver damage.

I didn’t come up with the game until after the debate. But I’m taping the one next week. Unfortunately, I don’t have the disposable income to come up with the roughly nineteen gallons of Woodford Reserve that it would take to play.

As for health care, as a chronically uninsured, I think that in a sane world, what Barack said should totally lose him the election by a landslide.

What was that about mandatory cancer screening? (And insert the obligatory prostate exam/IRS-BATFE jokes here)

BTW: heard on morning talk radio out of Denver: Ayres can’t be that bad for Barry to associate with, because Richard M. Daley thinks he’s all right. Yep, there’s a real ringing endorsement.

Crying over spilt subsidised corn-milk-substitutes totalling 8.73637373% of production.

Where are you all at?

It’s annoying that nobody thought to ask you guys what to do before the bailout, since apparently all the experts in the field were overwhelmingly wrong in supporting it,

Really??? All the experts? You don’t actually read much I am guessing.

Any possibility of you, like, writing a letter to the US Government or something? Seems a pity to let three hundred million people bumble along so ineffectually.

Huh? The US government is 300 million people? Even including the large political class with their snouts in the trough, that seems a rather large number of people ‘bumbling along’.

Oh wait though: freedom! markets! and just wait for the Utopia to roll in. I get it now.

So I guess there is no crisis of regulatory statism then? The regulated markets are just fine?

The MSM and many other keep saying that Bush and the Republicans owned White House, House, and Senate for the first 6 years … they seem to have forgotten that the GOP didn’t own the Senate during the 1st 2 years of George W’s first term …

And they are being *very* careful trying not to remind anyone that the Democrats have owned House and Senate since the end of January, 2007 …

Obama last night talked repeatedly about “on the failed economic policies of the last eight years” , “over the last eight years”, “if we reverse the policies of the last eight years that got us into this fix in the first place” …

He also said “And Senator McCain voted for four out of five of those George Bush budgets.” – so, gentlebeings, just what happened with the other 3 Budgets during those magical 8 years ?

I’m really curious to see who else, if anyone, picks up on the “4 out of 5″ during the 8 years …

Most of the experts failed to predict the crash. Experts like Hank Paulson and Ben Bernanke didn’t see it coming. Watch this video for example:

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=eMN5POiY0Ec

There were plenty of libertarians who understood that the global economy was on an unsustainable trend. That video shows Peter Schiff. Others include people like Jim Rogers, Ron Paul, etc. If people had listened to these guys before now, we wouldn’t be in this mess. And now that they’ve been proven right, they are still having zero influence on policy. Being ignored by the authorities and the “experts” is something that libertarians get used to.

I, for one, would like to know what, um, reality it is that Obama has created. Maybe McCain, too, yawn.

Looks like last night’s format was back to that of a joint press conference, with much less interaction, let alone deep interaction, than even their first event.

If things look bad enough for this campaign (they do) they should just turn Palin loose and follow her.

McCain should declare he will step down after being elected president, so that Sarah Palin can replace him.
Seems at this point to be the only strategy that might produce some chance of stopping Obama.

Actually the British plan announced today is even more insane the American one – one third of the entire economy (not of the budget – of the entire economy) is being pledged to back of the banks.

I was going to write an attempt at humour – as sadly normal with me it was going to be in “poor taste” and “way over the top”, but then I found that what I was planning to write (as insane ravings) was more moderate than what the major governments of the world had decided to do.

Shane.

If you can refute such works as de Soto’s “Money, Bank Credit and Economic Cycles” please do so.

But if you can not refute such Austrian School works then please shove your establishment “experts” where the sun does not shine.

Leaving banking (with some relief).

On wild spending generally it is clear that it is Senator Obama who is “more of the same” in relation to President Bush.

It is forgotten that even ignoring defence spending, President Bush has increased government spending more than any President since Richard Price Controls Nixon (of course counting the bailout he is now worse than Nixon – but I want to forget about the banks).

And the reaction of Obama/Biden?

“Not enough – more spending on health, education,……..” everything.

Almost a trillion Dollars of new spending.

About the same amount of debt as Senator Obama’s friends at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pushed (partly at the request of such Obama groups as ACORN).

On no I have remembered the banks again.

Actually the British plan announced today is even more insane the American one – one third of the entire economy (not of the budget – of the entire economy) is being pledged to back of the banks.

I was going to write an attempt at humour – as sadly normal with me it was going to be in “poor taste” and “way over the top”, but then I found that what I was planning to write (as insane ravings) was more moderate than what the major governments of the world had decided to do.

Shane.

If you can refute such works as de Soto’s “Money, Bank Credit and Economic Cycles” please do so.

But if you can not refute such Austrian School works then please shove your establishment “experts” where the sun does not shine.

Leaving banking (with some relief).

On wild spending generally it is clear that it is Senator Obama who is “more of the same” in relation to President Bush.

It is forgotten that even ignoring defence spending, President Bush has increased government spending more than any President since Richard Price Controls Nixon (of course counting the bailout he is now worse than Nixon – but I want to forget about the banks).

And the reaction of Obama/Biden?

“Not enough – more spending on health, education,……..” everything.

Almost a trillion Dollars of new spending.

About the same amount of debt as Senator Obama’s friends at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pushed (partly at the request of such Obama groups as ACORN).

On no I have remembered the banks again.